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Rain Fade

Discussion in 'General DISH™ Discussion' started by twcbrandon, Dec 21, 2008.

  1. RasputinAXP

    RasputinAXP Kwisatz Haderach of Cordcuttery

    Jan 23, 2008
    Thread necromancy!
  2. Stewart Vernon

    Stewart Vernon Roving Reporter Staff Member Super Moderator DBSTalk Club

    Jan 7, 2005
    Kittrell, NC
    I never have rain fade... but I have cloud fade. Steady downpours don't really cause me any problems... just the thick black clouds overhead... but usually those are temporary situations that don't last more than a few minutes.
  3. bnborg

    bnborg Icon

    Jun 3, 2005
    Same here. But not overhead so much as when the clouds are to the south.
  4. Stewart Vernon

    Stewart Vernon Roving Reporter Staff Member Super Moderator DBSTalk Club

    Jan 7, 2005
    Kittrell, NC
    Yeah... there have been times when it was clear (relatively) and no rain but I would have a signal outage... I would go outside and look towards the south and see some dark clouds miles away over someone else, but still in the line-of-sight causing me issues.
  5. Jim5506

    Jim5506 Hall Of Fame

    Jun 7, 2004
    The root problem here is that water vapor, especially water droplets in the atmosphere absorb the radiation frequences that satellite uses for transmission.

    If a lower frequency were used the problem would be less, but I have even seen cable companies lose signal due to heavy rainfall.

    The answer is that these interruptions are and will happen and unless you have a direct pipeline to God you can not prevent it. You have to realise that the outages will be short, almost always less than 30 minutes, and NOTHING on TV is worth popping a blood vessel over just because ou miss it.

    Get on with your life, watch TV when the clouds clear up.

    NOT NOBODY NOT NOHOW can prevent rainfade.

    It is a fact of physics, it happens to dbs subscribers, it even happens to cable companies - GET OVER IT!!
  6. renegade

    renegade Cool Member

    Jul 28, 2011
    Originally Posted by twcbrandon View Post

    I had cable for nearly 20 years before I got into the dish business and I can say that I NEVER can remember cable going out one time.

    Really ? Really ??? I got into satellite TV because of the cable outages. They seemed to occur daily in my area right around 4 PM and last for over an hour. I can deal with short-term rain outages. I've had fewer outages since switching over to Eastern Arc last fall.
  7. Stewart Vernon

    Stewart Vernon Roving Reporter Staff Member Super Moderator DBSTalk Club

    Jan 7, 2005
    Kittrell, NC
    True... I never had "rain fade" with cable... but man, there were almost daily outages and problems for many years in my area... and while that eventually improved, there still are lots of problems.

    Also, Time Warner has been implementing "switched" technology that ends up being kind of like time-sharing... and you could be in a scenario where you try to tune to a channel and get a popup saying that the channel isn't available right now because too many people are watching it! Seriously...
  8. kevinturcotte

    kevinturcotte Active Member

    Dec 19, 2006
    I ran into that problem quite a bit when I had Time Warner. Had Tivo, a cable card, and a tuning adapter, and frequently I'd go to watch a recording and it didn't record because the channel wasn't available. Of course, TW's solution was to use THEIR HD DVR (Like THAT would fix the problem lol). One of the reasons I went back to Directv.
  9. Jhon69

    Jhon69 Hall Of Fame

    Mar 27, 2006
    Central San...

    Yes there is.First realign your dish twice(or have it realigned) just to make sure it's peaked correctly.;)

    Then if you live in a high rain fade area the rule of thumb with satellite has always been the larger the reflector(dish) size the less the rain fade,because with a larger dish the signal is stronger,so I would recommend to install the largest dish(or dishes) a person can afford to minimize rain fade, if rain fade really bothers you and you can afford it.Good Luck!.:)
  10. scooper

    scooper Hall Of Fame

    Apr 22, 2002
    Youngsville NC
    Having been a 10 years + Dish subscriber - NOTHING IS ABSOLUTELY RAINFADE PROOF. Even OTA can have issues (at least for me - living in a forest) - leaves get wet and wind blowing - creates multipath - OTA goes out. It's worse with ATSC, but I'm sure it happened with NTSC/analog as well.

    There have even been threads here where a NATIONWIDE outage happened - because the uplink center was having some extreme rain that their big transmitting dishes couldn't burn through.

    The bottomline - when you get rainfade - take a chill pill, read a book or watch some recorded shows. About the only time rainfade would really be disruptive is on a Live event (sports, etc.) that won't be re-shown. And even then - it's just TV....

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