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  1. Apr 15, 2019 #61 of 127
    gio12

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    True but prices could slow. But WHY would OTT be cheaper if offering same channels? Will mean more profits!
     
  2. Apr 15, 2019 #62 of 127
    Rich

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    Wegmans has apricot nectar? I can easily reach a Wegmans.

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  3. Apr 15, 2019 #63 of 127
    Rich

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    Believe Del Monte used to make it but all I see is peach and pear in all the stores. Of course Amazon has some offerings, they have damn near everything. For some reason buying it from Amazon doesn't interest me. But, thanx, I really didn't expect to get such an answer. I'm gonna go to Wegmans tomorrow, I have an urge for nectar.

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  4. Apr 15, 2019 #64 of 127
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    Because they concentrate on the channels that people actually watch. For example my D sub probably included north of 200 channels the vast majority of which I never watched. My PSVue sub includes maybe 40 or 50 (not really sure as I never counted and honestly don’t really care). It’s not about the # of channels, that is a meaningless #. The only thing that matters is does the service have the channels I actually want to watch.
     
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  5. Apr 15, 2019 #65 of 127
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    Agree! Last year I did a comparison of my DIRECTV and PSVU. I listed all my channels from our custom guide and compared it to PSVU programming. I could get everything we currently get except PBS channels (PSVU has none (as of last year) and my DIRECTV had two). PSVU was $55 per month; DIRECTV $175 per month.

    Someone then listed all the channels I'd be losing going from my current DIRECTV subscription to PSVU. It was a long list. But since I had only looked at the channels we actually watch, the list was really just a list of all the channels we pay for but don't watch. (Even more reason in my mind to drop DIRECTV).

    So PBS is the only channel we'd lose, but I can get that via OTA.

    The only problem is that I can't get my wife to change services. We've had DIRECTV since 1998 and she doesn't want to change.
     
  6. Apr 15, 2019 #66 of 127
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    It isn't as though all channels cost the same. Locals and sports channels are responsible for much of your bill, so unless you don't get those from a streaming provider cost-wise it hardly matters if you have 50 channels that include locals, ESPN, and RSNs and 200 channels that include those plus a bunch of filler stuff like MTV 2 and religious/shopping fluff.
     
  7. Apr 15, 2019 #67 of 127
    slice1900

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    They raise their prices because the cost of locals, sports channels and everything else keeps going up. It isn't like they raise their prices just because, and make more profit every year from suckers.

    The OTT streaming packages like Directv Now or PSVue have exactly the same costs for the channels they provide. They've just been willing to lose money so far - PSVue is not profitable for Sony. Eventually they will need to raise prices so they can make money or throw in the towel (I think the latter is more likely)
     
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  8. Apr 15, 2019 #68 of 127
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    I agree, they don’t all cost the same. Clearly the most popular channels are the ones that cost the most. But some of those other channels do cost something. The days of people being impressed with the # of channels in a package is long past for most consumers.
     
  9. Apr 15, 2019 #69 of 127
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    I don't think anyone ever cared about the number of channels once it went over 100, but they all got used to marketing that way.
     
  10. Apr 15, 2019 #70 of 127
    mjwagner

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    Look, I completely agree that the OTT service prices will continue to go up. But unless the sat/cable services stop also raising their rates, honestly they would have to start cutting their rates which IMHO is unlikely, the OTT services will continue to be cheaper...it’s just simple math.
     
  11. Apr 15, 2019 #71 of 127
    mjwagner

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    IDK, you would be surprised...LOL
     
  12. Apr 15, 2019 #72 of 127
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    Not really. ESPN is the most expensive channel by far, but its about the 3rd most popular. No channel even comes close to ESPN re: cost. It's like 3 or 4x the next channel.
     
  13. Apr 15, 2019 #73 of 127
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    I could have sworn they were always leased even though you would buy them at Frys, etc they were subsidized.
     
  14. Apr 15, 2019 #74 of 127
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    They were. I bought a R22 from Best Buy and it was still a lease
     
  15. Apr 15, 2019 #75 of 127
    James Long

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    What is important is when what you want to watch is not on those 40-50 channels. Then you're searching for another service to add on to the first. As more and more programmers decide to offer their own service, streaming customers will be purchasing the HBO/Time Warner service from AT&T. Then Netflix for their unique content. Then Disney+ from ABC (and potentially a separate ESPN package). CBS is offering their own service, why not Viacom?

    If the marketplace is lucky the hundreds of bad channels will be bundled with the 40-50 everyone wants instead of just going away. 40-50 channels is fine if *ALL* of the content you want is on those channels. If not, you either have to accept that you are not getting everything you used to get before streaming killed traditional packages OR lie to your self and say you don't want the missing content.

    Hopefully you will never get to the point where you are saying "I can no longer watch" some show you like because there is no place for it on any service or the service carrying it is too expensive. Streamers will be dancing on their own grave.
     
  16. Apr 16, 2019 #76 of 127
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    Channels don’t matter. It’s the content that counts!
     
  17. Apr 16, 2019 #77 of 127
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    Exactly correct. People don’t seem to get it. I have 200* channels with Directv. Out of that there are probably 150 that I have never ever watched during the last 10 years! If the nights offerings are that bad I would rather go and do something else rather than watch TV. Luckily my DVR is always full of unwatched shows from those same 50 channels.
     
  18. Apr 16, 2019 #78 of 127
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    I don't think I watch 50 channels. Here's the problem though. I watch a few shows on DIY. That's not available in lower packages. The last time I checked, Preferred Xtra was the cheapest package that had everything I watch.
     
  19. Apr 16, 2019 #79 of 127
    James Long

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    Then: They will be subscribing to 10 different services to get half of the content one can now receive via cable or satellite.
     
  20. Apr 16, 2019 #80 of 127
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    For years, people have been wanting a la carte. They will be getting it with the separate subscription streaming services.
     

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