Raycom (or any other local) removed, what about Sunday Ticket

Discussion in 'DIRECTV General Discussion' started by ProfLonghair, Sep 1, 2014.

  1. fudpucker

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    Are you sure about that? I will pay attention, but I would swear when we were comparing OTA vs. DTV PQ by hooking one TV up to an OTA next to my TV connected to my satellite we got some commercials on DTV that were different from what was airing OTA. I'm going to have to check now. ;)
     
  2. dpeters11

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    Commercials are inserted on the directv feeds, but not from OTA feeds.
     
  3. noahproblem

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    Not a perfect solution by any means, but if a game on your local channel is not subject to the home team's blackout you might be able to watch it on Game Mix (better for the late games if only 4 or less games are playing when they often go to a 4-screen view instead of the 8-screen view).
     
  4. ProfLonghair

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    Oh, there's ALWAYS a work around. It's still crap, any way you slice it. The whole point of Sunday Ticket is to get access to all the games. If I don't have access to all the games, it is violating the spirit if not the letter of the contract.
     
  5. dpeters11

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    But it's really not. ST is to see any out of market games. Anything broadcast on local channels or local team blacked out is never meant to be included. An FCC Commissioner has called for the federal blackout rule to be repealed, but there is no indication that it will even come up for a vote, let alone pass. And even then, it doesn't mean that there wouldn't be blackouts, just not federally mandated.
     
  6. fleckrj

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    It is really pretty simple. Sunday ticket never states that all of the games will be available from DirecTV. Sunday Ticket only makes all of the games available that are not available from your local station. If your local station is broadcasting the game, then it does not matter whether DirecTV carries the local station. That game is blacked out on NFL Sunday Ticket, and the only way you can watch the game is from the local station. If DirecTV does not carry the local station, then you have to install an antenna and watch the game OTA.

    If you cannot receive the station OTA with an antenna, then you would be justified seeking a waiver that will allow you to receive the east and west locals from DirecTV, but not installing an antenna is not an option. If you can receive the station OTA with an outdoor antenna, then that is your only option, and you do have access to all of the games.
     
  7. Rob37

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    This is just pathetic that in the year 2014 we are still discussing blackouts. They need to be abolished in every sport.


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  8. dpeters11

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    Not many here would disagree, and some of these blackouts get extremely stupid. Last year someone reported on here that Stan Musial's funeral service was blacked out.
     
  9. usnret

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    If one has an antenna then why not use a AM21???
     
  10. ProfLonghair

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    Because one does not have one, nor does one feel like purchasing one.

    I emailed them, and this is the response I got (emphasis added by me):


    That last sentence seems to me like they are saying I will be able to see the game.
     
  11. fudpucker

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    I am not sure what they are saying - if, say, your game on your local station Sunday is the Bears and Bills, and that local is off the air, Sunday Ticket is not going to show it in your area. So what are they saying?
     
  12. Rob37

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    It is high time someone stands up and argues in Congress to start allowing us to purchase Distant Network Local Channels from other Major Cities like New York, Chicago, or Los Angeles. We should be able to subscribe to them based on the Area of the Country that we the customers live in. It seems like every year recently My Area loses a channel & right now it just happens to be my Local Raycom NBC Channel. I am missing My Local News, & Weather from that Station. And this Thursday Night I’ll be missing the first NFL game of the season.


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  13. James Long

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    In the case of the stations in this thread the local is NOT off the air. They are transmitting and broadcasting the game that they have exclusive rights to in their broadcast area. Sunday Ticket is honoring the local station's exclusive rights to that game. Just because DirecTV does not wish to pay the extortion needed to get permission to carry the local station's signal does not mean they can violate the station's exclusive rights.

    As long as the NFL sells exclusive rights to networks and their stations they need to honor the deals they make. If a station chooses NOT to air the game during the exclusive broadcast window then the NFL is free to sell the feed to another outlet. The Raycom stations are airing the games.
     
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  14. jtudor

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    This may not be 100% on topic, but I have never understood the reasoning why my local cable TV system can carry 2 or more CBS/ABC/NBC/FOX etc affiliates from two or t different markets, but Satellite providers are only allowed to carry one local network affiliate.
    I know it is an FCC rule, but what is the reasoning behind it? Why can cable do it and DTV/Dish can not?
     
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    The affiliates from other markets would have to be within a spot beam that covers you, and the spots are planned on the basis of making sure everyone within a DMA is covered, not everyone within a DMA and all surrounding DMAs.

    Sure, it would be possible in many cases for it work, but it would be more difficult to Directv to figure that out, and there would inevitably be some people who were on the edge (or what Directv considers to be the edge) of the spot who would be all upset because "my friend across town is able to sign up for the secondary market but Directv won't let me because they say I'm out of range!"
     
  17. James Long

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    It is part of the separate and unequal treatment that the FCC has for satellite carriers compared to cable carriers.

    I could write another 500 word rant about the situation ... but it does not seem to be something Congress wants to change. I would love to see more equality between cable and satellite when it comes to carrying TV stations - and the end of negotiated rates for carriage. But I do not get to write the rules for local-into-local carriage. :(
     
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  18. Pepe Sylvia

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    They changed it so the local channels could get the max rating, so they could charge max for ads. I don't know if it had to do with HD, unless it was to get them to upgrade their equipment.
     
  19. tonyd79

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    I didn't mean to imply that it was related. I was just giving the timeline. It may or may not have been related.
     
  20. NR4P

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    It doesn't make sense where I live.
    When I put in my zip code, one neighboring station comes up on the significantly viewed list.
    What station is that?

    Its from another county and its their school system TV station.

    Really, significantly viewed where we have a different school system?
     

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