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Reasons Al Jazeera should be carried in the US by its Director General

Discussion in 'DIRECTV Programming' started by sdk009, Feb 1, 2011.

  1. Feb 3, 2011 #61 of 124
    Ed Campbell

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    "It would be very welcome here. Any country's news tends to be pedestrian."

    You are too kind. Add-in parochial, insular and craven - to the reality.
     
  2. Feb 3, 2011 #62 of 124
    bonscott87

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    This.

    *Every* news outlet in the world, no matter how much they may try to not be biased most certainly is biased, at least in some ways to the culture/country/people that are it's main target. But we the people need to be informed of this and be smart about it. Do I believe everything AJE says or that it's unbiased? Heck no. But neither to I believe everything Fox News or CNN tells me is unbiased or true either. Unfortunately too many people are snowed under to be able to see above the bias.

    I guess the biggest thing I like about AJE or RT during "normal" times is a quick world news update for myself. If you watch a plain news show for a half hour on the channel you'll be more informed about the world then you ever were. Elections in such and such African country...unrest in Central Asia...latest thing China is doing and so forth. Stuff that Fox News, CNN, etc. seem to refuse to report on because it's more important to spend a half an hour on the fact the Speaker of the House changed the part in his hair and if that means he now leans more left or right. ;)
     
  3. Feb 3, 2011 #63 of 124
    Davenlr

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    No, it was a joke. They all raised their rates, and (in D*'s case anyway) havent added any new channels. Meant absolutely nothing by the comment, just trying to be a s*a*
     
  4. Feb 3, 2011 #64 of 124
    hasan

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    As far as the "other sources" besides satellilte for AJE, for example:

    I've been trying to connect to AJE for half an hour, and no luck (I'm sure it's too busy). This is why it would be nice to have it on D*, no busy messages.:)

    english.aljazeera.net


    is what I'm trying to load, btw. If there is another link, please point me to it.
    Sometimes I can get the opening page, but if I click on the "live" link, it always times out.

    Not unlike many important world events (let's say a crisis), the best web sites get jammed and are unavailable. At the very time we want/need them, they are unavailable.

    Another manifestation of this phenomenon is cell phones. When a localized emergency becomes somewhat widespread, the cell networks become unusable, because they sell 10x the bandwidth (or more) than they can support during a crisis. Cell phones are great for a personal emergency, but for a larger event, they become useless. Something for people to keep in mind.
     
  5. Feb 3, 2011 #65 of 124
    sdk009

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    MSNBC stayed live until midnight (EST) last night with Richard Engle and Brian Williams hanging off of their hotel balcony reporting on the violence until it calmed down when the sun came up in Cairo. MSNBC may have some left-leaning commentators, but its news is straight-forward and is hardly "worthless."
     
  6. Feb 3, 2011 #66 of 124
    sorrycharlie

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    Language is the only difference. Coverage is the same.
     
  7. Feb 3, 2011 #67 of 124
    Stuart Sweet

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    More than anything, I'm just glad we can discuss this rationally without someone confusing journalism with terrorism.
     
  8. Feb 3, 2011 #68 of 124
    hasan

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    Kudos to the participants!
     
  9. Feb 3, 2011 #69 of 124
    hasan

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    I don't know about the specific coverage of this event, but in general that is not true. AJ Arabic is quite a bit different. If you don't speak Arabic, you wouldn't necessarily know. I have sat for hours with Arabic speakers watching AJ Arabic, and it is ....well...different would be generous.:)

    The stories and how they are covered, the speakers, etc. are way different on AJ Arabic. Still interesting and informative, but a great deal of caveat emptor is in order.
     
  10. Feb 3, 2011 #70 of 124
    Daniel

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    Try their YouTube channel, I've been having better luck there: http://www.youtube.com/aljazeeraenglish

    The live feed is halfway down the page.
     
  11. Feb 3, 2011 #71 of 124
    dlt4

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    I've heard enough about Al Jazeera to know it is anti-America and anti-Semitic. Therefore, I will never watch it, and I will let D* know that I will never watch it, and I will consider dropping D* if it AJ becomes a regular channel.

    Just my 2 cents.
     
  12. Feb 3, 2011 #72 of 124
    sigma1914

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    What about Al Jazeera English? Have you watched it?
     
  13. Feb 3, 2011 #73 of 124
    bonscott87

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    AJE is neither of those. AJE is totally different from the Arabic language version.
     
  14. Feb 3, 2011 #74 of 124
    James Long

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    Except the AJ part. Perhaps "AJ lite"? :D
     
  15. Feb 3, 2011 #75 of 124
    dlt4

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    No, I haven't. But to me, it would be like shaking hands with somebody who is stabbing you in the back with a knife in the other hand.
     
  16. Feb 3, 2011 #76 of 124
    sigma1914

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    I appreciate your honesty, but how can you be so prejudice against something you've never seen? Antisemitism and anti-American are bad, yet being anti-Muslim is ok? :confused:
     
  17. Feb 3, 2011 #77 of 124
    James Long

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    I thought AJE was an unbiased news channel. Are you now saying it is a Muslim religious channel? Are people who are against Fox News anti-Christian?

    It isn't anti-Muslim to study at a channel's content (or the parent channel) and determine that said content is anti-American. It is not anti-Muslim, it is anti-Al Jazeera.
     
  18. Feb 3, 2011 #78 of 124
    hasan

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    "Dear DirecTV: I've never watched AJE, nor do I have any personal understanding of what they are about, but I've heard they are anti-American and anti-Semetic. If you carry them I'll stomp my feet and hold my breath, and then cancel my account."

    I've heard that people from Texas are....(fill in the blank). When I actually met and talked to them, I found that largely not to be true.

    I've watched and listened to AJE for a long time and have not found them to be either anti-Semetic or anti-American. Then again, I didn't hear this from some ill-informed dolt, or xenophobic mob, but actually listened for myself.

    I don't want to turn this into a policy debate, but simply disagreeing with an American position or actions of the Israeli government doesn't make one a bigot or unpatriotic. If that were true, you would have to indict a large part of the country, as half of the people of this country don't agree with American policy, (no matter what it is) nearly all the time.


    Don't throw the baby out with the bathwater.

    Now, if you actually listen or watch AJE and then come to the conclusion that they are anti-Semitic or anti-American, that's an entirely different matter. In that case, bring your proof (instead of hearsay) and we can discuss it.

    I've heard a lot of things about a lot of people, most of which turn out to be at best half-truths, and the rest ignorance. Those things aren't worth two kopecs, much less two cents, and only people with no shame repeat this kind of nonsense.
     
  19. Feb 3, 2011 #79 of 124
    hasan

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    It isn't anti-Muslim to study a channel's content....it is an obligation to study the content of any government, news organization, or regular guy and see if they are worth listening to. It does become a bit silly to come to the conclusion that disagreeing with a government's actions and policies is somehow anti-government. It happens here all the time, thank God!

    Our government does a lot of things right, and very honorably, and at the same time, does a few things very wrong. Anyone who is unable to see this is not a patriot, they are a parrot.

    Anyone who thinks any news organization is unbiased is deluded. The bias may or may not be intentional, but it is unavoidable.

    Figuring this out is our job.

    ...and no, AJE nor AJ are religious channels. AJ has more religious content, but is not clerically dominated, or even much influenced.
     
  20. Feb 3, 2011 #80 of 124
    sigma1914

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    Anti-Middle Eastern might be a better term than anti-Muslim. He is still basing his beliefs on something he's never seen. That's bigotry and no better than being antisemitic or anti-American. If he is anti-Muslim and that's why he doesn't want or like AJE, then his original statement is flawed. He's certainly entitled to his views & it's not personal.
     

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