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Reasons for NOT using DECA...

Discussion in 'DIRECTV Connected Home' started by CalifLove, Nov 16, 2010.

  1. poppagene

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    How do you get locals for 2 dmas without moving?
     
  2. HoTat2

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    He's referring to signals OTA, not from the DirecTV satellite feed. On the AM21 tuner module setup and for the HR20 series integrated one, you may enter up to two zip codes in either the same or different DMAs and receive stations from each.

    Of course its up to you to purchase and install the necessary antenna system to actually accomplish it.
     
  3. veryoldschool

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    One from your service address and through the SAT feed, and the other with a big antenna pointed at the other DMA towers and through OTA. "Simple"
     
  4. j2fast

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    You can't via satellite, I assume it's because he/she resides in an area that allows reception of signals from 2 DMA's using an antenna (OTA). Where I live I can actually easily receive stations OTA from 3 different DMA's, usually without having to adjust the antenna.

    To answer the OP's question, I can't see a reason to not go with DECA. I ran MRV on my home network successfully for many months but I switched to DECA at the first opportunity.
     
  5. harsh

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    DECA isn't particularly scalable in an environment where you may have several LAN devices (TV, TV subscription box, disc player, gaming console, AVR) in each home entertainment station.

    DECA hardware isn't compatible with services other than DIRECTV (though the basic wiring should be).

    DECA adds to your technology collection -- it doesn't replace it. You need to have multiple technologies as connecting numerous non-DIRECTV devices via DECA is fundamentally not a good idea.

    Within the practical margins, DECA does what it is supposed to do and it allows someone to come into your house and set up a network correctly. It definitely has its place.
     
  6. inkahauts

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    Why don't you just say there is no downside.. Because NOTHING you state is a reason to NOT use Deca for Directv's WHDVR setup...

    The main (ok, 99% of the reasoning) reason you hear so much talk about not using it and getting around it is for current customers who tested MRV in Beta form (most of whom only found out about the beta because they are on this website to boot) with networking not wanting to pay the upgrade fee...
     
  7. Earl Bonovich

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    Didn't say a thing about the validity of use of OTA...
    But with regards to "why not DECA", this particular case, is a nich/corner case.
     
  8. veryoldschool

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    Because it doesn't work on his Dish system. :lol:
     
  9. CalifLove

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    Thanks for the replies folks - this has turned into an interesting discussion.

    I have decided to move back to DTV with an install date after the turkey day holiday. I haven't seen any additional fees quoted so far for getting a DECA setup - is this somthing I should be on the lookout for during install? Did the DECA fees only apply to existing Dtv customers wanting to "upgrade" ?

    Thanks!
     
  10. The Merg

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    Can you post your order info as listed in your confirmation e-mail or on your DirecTV on-line account? If you have gotten your account number, you can create your on-line account and see your order there, too.

    - Merg
     
  11. Richierich

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    I wrestled with going to DECA because my LAN Network based system worked pretty good for the most part and I could save $3 which is not a big deal to me but HDTVFAN0001 kept telling me how Flawless his DECA WHDVR System worked so I bit the bullet and I am very glad I did because problems are a non event and it works faster, better as I guess it is Optimized for the Purpose of Delivering HD Audio/Video Content.

    You can definitely tell that!!! I definitely wouldn't go back for a measly $3 and have to deal with the occasional glitches and pixellation and having DVRs dropped from my WHDVR.

    But to each his own.
     
  12. harsh

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    I'm not disputing that. I'm simply pointing out that there may be more to life than watching TV through a DIRECTV receiver.

    Why maintain two or three network topologies if you can successfully use fewer.

    Are you saying that DIRECTV will maintain and expand/upgrade your DECA system for free?
     
  13. bobcamp1

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    You do realize that comments like that could get you in deep trouble in this forum. :lol:
     
  14. lugnutathome

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    Actually his statements do give a reason not to.

    If you already have an infrastructure in place for other purposes and it is more than capable to run WHDVR in addition to its other services then one might wish to not add yet another network technology and all it's "moving parts" to the mix.

    That is an entirely valid reason not to use DECA but one that is limited to a minuscule subset of subscribers. A large percentage of which are probably here in these forums.

    For some reason I see this "dog pile on the rabbit" response on Harsh's postings, yet his statements although clinical (OK harsh) in nature frequently seem to me to have technological merit.

    Don "yeah he does use 'brand-X' but:grin:" Bolton

     
  15. HoTat2

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    But what real proof does harsh have that DECA is only really capable of supporting program streaming of MRV and no others?

    As I really see no technical reason why the DECA coax network can't do everything the actual MOCA standard networks do such as used by FiOS and U-verse, where at least FiOS I know places everything on the coax network nowadays without issue.

    Therefore I contend that DirecTV is simply being overly conservative and cautious in advising that no ethernet devices should be connected to the DECA cloud other than their receiver client/servers.

    I mean I'm using a computer connected to the DECA cloud right now, and it works just fine even in the midst MRV streaming going on between DirecTV boxes elsewhere.
     
  16. hdtvfan0001

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    Proof - 0.

    Firsthand knowledge - 0.

    Information construed from other DECA user's posts - some.

    DECA itself - priceless. :D
     
  17. veryoldschool

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    Let's not limit this to just DECA, since it's true for all DirecTV services & hardware.
    I'd say more, but forum rules and all, prohibit it. ;)
     
  18. jdspencer

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    Once the Beta ended I too thought of going with DECA.

    But, I have the philosophy that "if ain't broke, don't fix it".
    With only the two DVRs, my network is working just fine.:)
     
  19. lugnutathome

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    Sorry to have driven this off topic earlier:(.

    But since I did... I can see DTV not wanting other devices on their DECA as it adds complexity and possible causality to abhorrent behaviors that they would be clueless on how to troubleshoot.

    My first thought on DECA was how cool it would be to give their subscribers a hardwired LAN to use in their home. Then after seeing all the absolute confusion between DTV techs and subscribers bringing WHDVR to life I can understand they want to limit it to their controlled environment which is difficult enough for the vast majority of subscribers;)

    Reality is, it's just another Ethernet pipe perhaps enhanced for specific uses but it was built to be a controlled infrastructure. Adding our non DTV stuff takes that control away.

    Yeah I know, most of us here know enough to work around it all;)

    Don "let go of my ears I know what I'm doing" Bolton

     
  20. Richierich

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    Yes, in my opinion Directv wanted a Simplified Network that Optimized Audio/Video Distribution throughout the Home that was fairly Easy for Installers to Install, Easy for CSRs to Troubleshoot and not too Expensive for the Consumer and WHDVR/DECA Delivers Big Time in my opinion because mine works Flawlessly!!! :D
     

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