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Remanufactured R-15

Discussion in 'DIRECTV SD DVR/Receiver Discussion' started by Telecom Techie, Oct 9, 2013.

  1. Telecom Techie

    Telecom Techie New Member

    Feb 4, 2011
    Hello, All. I've been learning here for several years, and now I have something to share.

    One of my old R15-300's failed. After years of service, it went completely dead. Received as a protection-plan replacement for a failed Tivo, it was a dusty "refurbished" veteran when I got it. The failure mode suggests a power supply problem, but the solution was to call the protection plan folks. They promised a replacement and did not want the dead R-15 in exchange.

    The replacement arrived promptly. I was hoping for an R-22. I was expecting a dusty R-16... but what I got was a perfectly remanufactured R-15. When I say "REMANUFACTURED", I mean disassembled, washed, and reassembled with new fastners and new cables, new hard drive, painted steel cover, and new or repainted front. The degree of care given this old 2006-vintage box was shocking enough, but there were two significant upgrades that I share for your information and discussion:

    1.) The old 160GB Seagate Barracuda is replaced with a new 250GB Seagate Pipeline. There is an IDE to SATA converter attached to the drive.

    2.) The dish selection menu includes SWM options. I am not using this box on a SWM system, but the presence of the option in the firmware suggests that this old box, which originally did not support SWM, has been upgraded to add SWM functionality. Right?

    I believe this observation provides insight into how DTV is managing their stock of equipment during the sunset of SD. It is curious to me that (if I am right about SWM) an obsolete receiver has been essentially converted into the newer model. The cost of this reman is probably less that a new unit, but MUCH higher than simply testing/reboxing a used unit and labeling it "refurbished".

    Has production of R-16's ceased? Is this expensive R-15 reman driven by a shortage of good reclaimed R-16 and R-15 boxes?

    BTW, a DTV tech told me that refurbed R-22's have been sent out as SD-DVR replacements in recent months.

    If DTV is scraping the bottom of the barrel for SD-DVR's (maybe I should say "when", not "if"), does anyone expect HD-DVR's to become the default replacement for SD-DVR's?
  2. peds48

    peds48 Genius.

    Jan 10, 2008
    the R15 needs more than firmware to be SWM compatible. Perhaps is using the general firmware from the other SD DVRs

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  3. ThomasM

    ThomasM RF Engineer

    Jul 20, 2007
    Milwaukee, WI
    That's pretty interesting. I love my two R15-300's and watch them a lot more than my R22. One of them was BRAND NEW when I got it in July 2007 and the other one was "refurbished" (but I don't think they did a thing to it). It is from 2005 including the HDD!!! I got it when it was 2 years old. If one of them fails and it's the HDD, I'll probably replace it myself. If it's a power supply or something more serious, I'll spend the $20 and get a replacement from DTV.
  4. DB Stalker

    DB Stalker New Member

    Aug 21, 2013
    Tooele, UT
    Do you have a friend with a SWM setup? That would be the best way to tell for sure. I've never heard of an r15 working in a SWM setup though. And yes, R22s are back.

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  5. Telecom Techie

    Telecom Techie New Member

    Feb 4, 2011
    No, but I would almost buy a SWM-8 just to explore this. And to free up some coax runs for other projects.

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