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Replace press and hold functions?

Discussion in 'DIRECTV HD DVR/Receiver Discussion' started by inkahauts, Aug 22, 2009.

Please choose the option you like best from the first post.

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  1. billsharpe

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    I'm fine with the way it is now. And I see 15 others agree with me, whatever the reason.
     
  2. gully_foyle

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    I voted to keep as is (#3).

    This isn't so much as I like "press and hold" but because the DirecTV remote sends a DIFFERENT CODE on press-and-hold and my 3rd party remote knows that code. For me, it's just a button, no hold required. If it changes to a state-based operation (while FF, hit skip, etc) it actually becomes less usable for me. I suspect that I am not alone in this.

    Now, if the old press-and-hold codes remain usable but some new alternative is enabled, fine, go for it.
     
  3. RACJ2

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    Interesting, what brand of aftermarket remote would that be?
     
  4. paulman182

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    I guess I shouldn't have voted because I never use these features and don't really see any use for them.

    If a mod wants, erase my vote from Option 3. I just picked that choice because I see no reason to change something I don't use anyway.
     
  5. Steve

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    Not sure I understand. Whatever the codes are, why would changing to an easier method (than PRESS-HOLD) to send those same commands change how your 3d party remote works?

    I think what we're asking for is a way the DirecTV remote can send those same command signals as reliably as your universal does.
     
  6. dbronstein

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    I'm interested to know as well. I have a Harmony 890 and would love to be able to program a slo-mo button on it. The press and hold functions don't work at all for me.
     
  7. dbronstein

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    Because the proposed solution wouldn't have the remote send those signals. It would send the FF or RWD commands and the receiver would process them differently depending on whether it was currently in a play or pause state. The remote would have no way of knowing what state the receiver was in so it couldn't send different signals.

    Ideally you would have both options - use the DTV remote with the proposed suggestion and also be able to program a universal remote with separate FF/RWD commands.
     
  8. Steve

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    So apparently right now the HR2x "listens" for either repeated presses of particular keys, or discrete codes that kcmurphy has discovered. Probably no reason a "third" method (FF/ARROW) couldn't be listened for as well.
     
  9. Syzygy

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    inkahauts claims he likes press-and-hold, and calls the rest of us bad operators. I don't believe him at all.

    So far 19 people have said they want to leave press-and-hold the way it is. I think most of these people either didn't understand the question, or never use any of the press-and-hold functions, or are in fact showing contempt for the poll.

    By the way, even if you never use any of the press-and-hold functions, you'd be showing contempt for your fellow customers if you were to say you want to leave the press-and-hold functions the way they are. (Maybe there should've been two more options: I don't understand and I don't care.)
     
  10. gully_foyle

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    one for all, hacked of course.
     
  11. gully_foyle

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    With my remote I press a key that sends one command (the same command that you have to hold a key down for on the DirecTV remore).

    If instead they take that command OUT and replace it with a state-driven sequence (do this WHILE something else is happening) it becomes difficult to create a macro to replace. State-sensitive logic is always difficult to automate -- which is why on/off toggle keys are so annoying.

    If they leave the HR2x boxes responding to the current commands, but also have some other (better) method of HR2x remotes, fine. No problem. But both option 1 & 2 said REMOVE the current mechanism. So I voted for #3.
     
  12. Steve

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    Isn't it a different IR command that produces the same results? Or does the DirecTV remote switch to a different IR signal once the key is held down?

    Using my RX7 universal remote, and I can also press-hold REPLAY/ADVANCE to jump to BEGINNING/END, which makes me think it's the same signal. That said, I guess it's possible the RX7 mimics the DirecTV remote and does send a different signal after the key is held.

    So if you're doing it with one keypress, it could be a different discrete code that someone discovered for your JP-1 remote. Following that logic, the HR2x may be capable of simultaneously recognizing different signals/key sequences to engage a particular function.
     
  13. bwaldron

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    Yes, I would love to see discrete codes for these functions documented so that I can implement them on my programmable remote. I was certainly unaware of their existence.
     
  14. Steve

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    There are some Pronto discrete codes listed here. No press-hold functions, tho.
     
  15. BAHitman

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    wow... in all the years I've used my old Tivo's, I never knew that the live tv button did what the down arrow does... swap tuners... guess since the down arrow was more convenient, that's what I always used...
     
  16. ATARI

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    No, if people don't understand or don't care, then they should not vote on the subject.
     
  17. bwaldron

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    Yes, thanks, those I have seen (and used). The possible existence of "press & hold" discretes is what is news to me.
     
  18. Steve

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    Agree. Since KCMurphy is able to get to BEGINNING/END with one keypress on his universal remote, he's apparently doing so with an IR code that is difficult, if not impossible, to LEARN from the DirecTV remote.

    Wish I had access to his remote so I could "learn" those commands onto my RX7! :)
     
  19. Syzygy

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    What brand is your 3rd party remote? I have a Harmony One, and I sure wish it could use the special code for slo-mo (in particular).

    Oops, I see you later said "One for All." My follow-up question: where can I find the codes to feed my old JP1 remote? It can connect to my PC.
     
  20. RACJ2

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    I have a "One for All", so can you please post the the code you are using for "Skip to Tick"? I currently use a macro with FF, then Skip which works, but uses up more memory.
     

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