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Rewiring required when removing DPP44.

Discussion in 'General DISH™ Discussion' started by MikeHou, Feb 4, 2011.

  1. Feb 4, 2011 #1 of 10
    MikeHou

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    I've got Dish 1000 feeding a VIP 622 and a 222 via a DPP44 switch. I had another duo 322 previously, but have removed that. I'm trying to clean up my closet where the dpp44 is laying outside my tiny distribution panel by reverting to the setup I had before I added the 222 and the dpp44.

    I don't recall if they changed the LNBs when the dpp44 was added or if they are just "rewired" or something. I understand I basically have 3 cables to feed each LNB to the DPP44 now and I want to revert where I'm only feeding 2 lines from the dish where one runs to the 622 and one to the 222.

    Will this require swapping out LNBs or do they just need to be reconfigured/rewired?
     
  2. Feb 4, 2011 #2 of 10
    boba

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    To run 1 cable to each receiver you would need a DPP TWIN with a 3rd LNB run into the TWIN. If you have 3 cables coming into the DPP44 you don't have that configuration. At the least you will need to rewire the 3rd LNB into the TWIN. Leave the wiring alone and live with the DPP44.

    Which 1000 do you have, 1000/1000+/1000.2 or 1000.4?

    Did you get snow this morning we've got 4-5 inches?
     
  3. Feb 4, 2011 #3 of 10
    MikeHou

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    I believe it's a 1000+, but not entirely sure.

    Is the DPP TWIN a different LNB or a different switch? Sorry to be so dense, but been awhile since I messed with this and not at all since the DPP44 was added.

    Were supposed to get 3" or snow here, but just got a glaze of ice on everything. So I won't be up on the roof today, but am doing some research.

    Bottom line I'm selling the house soon and the closet with the dpp44 looks bad, so want to get it out. If you can point me to websites that describe different configs, that might work.

    Stay warm.
     
  4. Feb 4, 2011 #4 of 10
    BattleZone

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    First, you need to be clear on exactly which dish you have.

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    Dish 1000. Note it only uses Dish 500-type LNBs, and the top part of the dish reflector is wider than the bottom part, instead of being a perfect oval. The reflector is also smaller.

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    Dish 1000.2 For the last few years, the reflectors were marked "Turbo HD". Reflector is larger, is a perfect oval, and by default uses a combined LNB/switch pack, though there is a "W" bracket that will allow 3 DP duals to be used in a spaced-out configuration.

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    If your dish has 3 DP Dual LNBs, then you'd need to replace some LNBs.

    On a Dish 1000, you can swap out 2 of them for a DP Plus Twin, as shown in the pic. If you have a Dish 1000.2, you'd need to get a 1000.2 LNB plus the LNB feed bracket that goes with it.
     
  5. Feb 4, 2011 #5 of 10
    MikeHou

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    Perfect, that's what I needed to see.

    I have the alternate 3 lnbf assembly. I used to have the first one. Guess I'd have to revert to what I had; too bad the installer didn't leave those behind.

    I still have a DP pro dual lnbf from my old Dish 500, but I assume that is of no use in this config?

    Thanks for the help guys.
     
  6. Feb 4, 2011 #6 of 10
    shadough

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    its of no use unless its a "plus" lnb with a third port used as an input for the 3rd sat.
     
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    harsh

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    Note that there is no such beastie as a DPP Dual. DP Pro is redundant and therefore confusing.

    You would need a DPP Twin to go with a DP Dual and then some way to mount them.

    I'd leave it alone. If you ultimately decide that it is going to leave you permanently scarred :new_Eyecr to know that you've got 50% more cable cable than you need coming down from the dish, go for a WA Dish 1000.4 (when available).
     
  9. Feb 4, 2011 #9 of 10
    BobaBird

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    Or it might make your head spin. ;) Most of the possibilities are laid out at http://www.dishuser.org/swconfig.php
    To clarify this for the OP,

    DP = DishPro
    DPP = DishPro Plus

    DP can refer to receivers, switches and band-stacking LNBs.
    DPP refers to a switch with an extra ability to select signal from any of the connected LNBs and band-translate and re-stack to send any 2 down 1 line of RG6 to a dual-tuner receiver.
     
  10. BattleZone

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    Okay, a DP Plus Twin won't work with that bracket. You'll need a 1000.2 LNB pack and plastic feed bracket.
     

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