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RG-59 with SWiM?

Discussion in 'DIRECTV Installation/MDU Discussion' started by Cavicchi, Jun 8, 2010.

  1. Jun 9, 2010 #21 of 109
    Cavicchi

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    Which runs carry DC? Cable hooked up to power inserter behind TV, cable to DECA module, and or?
     
  2. Jun 9, 2010 #22 of 109
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    The part that runs out to the dish.
     
  3. Jun 9, 2010 #23 of 109
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    The single cable from ground block to dish or all the cables that go from green label splitter to receivers? And are we talking the center pin being copper or steel? How about the cable going to power inserter?
     
  4. Jun 9, 2010 #24 of 109
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    The dish is where the power is needed. EVERYTHING from there to where the power comes from [the PI]. There is no "center pin", just the center conductor and look at the cut end to see if you can see steel. If DirecTV installed this, the odds are good that it is solid copper.
     
  5. Jun 9, 2010 #25 of 109
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    I looked at one cable DTV used yesterday and there is a copper-colored pin/conductor sticking out, and around that copper pin/conductor is what looks like white plastic.

    I am still not sure what runs you mean. When you say everything, do you mean all the runs from dish to each receiver, or just the run to power inserter?
     
  6. Jun 9, 2010 #26 of 109
    veryoldschool

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    You may be overly obsessing over this.
     
  7. Jun 9, 2010 #27 of 109
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    No, just trying to understand what you're talking about. Do you mean all the runs from dish to each receiver or just run to power inserter?

    I don't know about DC, just AC.
     
  8. Jun 9, 2010 #28 of 109
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    Guess you're not seeing the bold I've added to your questions either.

    I hope your "AC" is Air Conditioning.
    The DC power runs from the PI to the LNB. This path is what's you want to have solid copper core RG6. The receivers/DECA don't care, since they're out of the loop.
     
  9. Jun 9, 2010 #29 of 109
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    According to Wikipedia, "Copper-clad steel (CCS), also known as copper-covered steel or the trademarked name Copperweld,[citation needed] is a bi-metallic product, mainly used in the wire industry that combines the high mechanical resistance of steel with the conductivity and resistance to corrosion of copper.
    Its main purpose is to be used as a drop wire of telephone cables, and inner conductor of coaxial cables, including thin hookup cables like RG174, and CATV cable."

    Since the conductors of both types look like copper, I don't see how I could possibly know if it is solid copper or copper colored over steel by looking at the conductor. I looked at both DTV and cable company RG6 and they both have copper-looking conductors.
     
  10. Jun 9, 2010 #30 of 109
    veryoldschool

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    CATV doesn't send DC along the coax.
    I can see the silver/steel "inside" on the end of the conductor. If you can't, then use a magnet as I have suggested.
     
  11. Jun 9, 2010 #31 of 109
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    Believe it or not, I don't have a magnet. Since CATV doesn't send DC along the coax, most likely their cable is not solid copper inside. So, what would I do if that is the case?
     
  12. Jun 9, 2010 #32 of 109
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    Okay, I stripped extra cables from cable company and DTV and the cable company is copper clad, not solid copper. So what am I to do? The installer used cable company cables to all receivers--including the one that has power inserter.
     
  13. Jun 9, 2010 #33 of 109
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    BTW, he connected DTV from green splitter with DTV RG6 to barrel connector that connected to RG6 from cable company.
     
  14. Jun 9, 2010 #34 of 109
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    You could/should call and get them to replace this.
     
  15. Jun 9, 2010 #35 of 109
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    I just did that! DTV said they put in the work order for it and I should be getting a call back today to setup an appointment. Should he replace all the cables or just the one going to power innserter?

    I assume he should also replace the RG6 from cable company that goes from wall to TVs, right?
     
  16. Jun 9, 2010 #36 of 109
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    I just got a call from installer to setup an appointment. I was surprised they asked me what issues I was having. Apparently, they see nothing wrong with using DTV cables to cable company cables, which kind of reminds me of that guy who said they know better than DTV and tried to install MRV with Internet without Internet Kit.

    Anyway, I expect the installer to run DTV cables to all receivers and from wall to TV. The sneaky part of what that installer did was connect DTV RG6 from SWiM splitter into basement, about 3 feet, and connect cable company RG6 via a barrel connector, thus, it looked like he used DTV RG6. It probably doesn't matter to them mixing cables like that because they know better than DTV. :nono2:
     
  17. Jun 9, 2010 #37 of 109
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    +1 :lol:
     
  18. Jun 9, 2010 #38 of 109
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    RG6 is pretty much RG6. Does it really matter who installed it? My house was wired by the builder with RG6. I wasn't going to have D* destroy my walls to run their own cables. They were happy to connect to the home run.
     
  19. Jun 9, 2010 #39 of 109
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    There is a difference between solid copper and copper clad RG6, which is why veryoldschool suggested getting my copper clad cable replaced. It wouldn't matter who installed it if both RG6 types functioned the same, especially with regard for carrying DC. The other thing is, it makes absolutely no sense to connect solid copper DTV RG6 cable to copper clad cable company RG6 via barrel connectors.

    There are no walls to tear down for installation of cable, at least not in my two-story house with full basement.
     
  20. Jun 9, 2010 #40 of 109
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