Roger Goodell Says NFL Sunday Ticket Needs a Online Streaming Outlet

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  1. Rich

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    I tried MLB TV and didn't think the PQ was any better or worse than what D* gives me. That was disappointing. Thought the long shots would be a lot clearer but I still could not read the names on the uniforms during a long shot.

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    We had a pretty good picture on D* that night, seems like they spiff it up for special occasions.

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  3. trh

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    MLB.TV uses 60 frames per second. I don't believe DIRECTV HD is better than that.
     
  4. TheRatPatrol

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    Do any of you use PIP?
     
  5. cmasia

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    Just thought I'd mention the elephant in the room on this subject.

    The reason ST was limited to one provider - DirecTV - in the first place was a concession to the FOX and CBS affiliates who sell local air time in those Sunday afternoon windows.

    Obviously, part of the agreement stipulated ST would black out games televised on your local channel.

    More importantly, DirecTV only represented about a 20% share of the cable/satellite market, so FOX and CBS demurred.

    The agreements with FOX and CBS end in 2022 and I would guess any prior change or expansion of Sunday Ticket would require some renegotiation with both networks.
     
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  6. Rich

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    No idea. Just know what I see.

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  7. glrush

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    I have 3 TV's in my man cave. One is on the local game which I receive with an antenna, one is on Red Zone which I stream, and one is for "flipping" meaning that I use it to jump around. I set up the dual tuners and then use the "previous" button to jump between 2 games on each tuner. Streaming is perfectly fine if you don't flip around a lot, but it cannot, at least not yet, replace the DirecTV experience, at least for me.
     
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    Yes same 3 TVs

    1 red zone
    1 ota
    1 streaming

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  9. barnabas

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    I’m pretty sure the first 4 years all the games were available unless the stadium didn’t sell out I want to believe the blacking out if games carried on local channels stated in 98 anybody else remember this
     
  10. James Long

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    Blackouts are not specific to DIRECTV or satellite in general.
    Cable can do blackouts - usually by airing alternate programming on the channel in question.
    Streaming should be able to do blackouts as long as they have their geofences set correctly.

    NFL Sunday Ticket is not an easy package to deliver. DIRECTV has to set aside a lot of channels to be able to deliver every game (since these are not RSNs with nationwide satellite footprints - reception blocked by blackouts). Traditional cable delivery would have been difficult - creating multiple channels for one day per week. Modern cable delivery and streaming delivery would be easier (cable is shifting to being a streaming based service in many areas). Technology has caught up with the product.

    The reason why it was an exclusive (and remains so today) is that DIRECTV was and is willing to pay for it to be exclusive.
     
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    James, while you're correct DirecTV was willing to pay for exclusivity, the package itself was developed to be sold to one carrier exclusively.

    Here is an article from Sports Illustrated.

    What is the future of DIRECTV's NFL Sunday Ticket?

    And here is a key part of the article, with a quote from the early days of ST:

    As much as the NFL has always preached its desire to reach fans, the decision to keep Sunday Ticket limited was intentional. As Broncos owner Pat Bowlen explained at the time, “With DIRECTV, we're in 11 million homes. With cable, it would have been, what, 80 million? That would have had a huge impact on our over-the-air broadcast partners.” Local TV stations were wary that if too many people had access to the all-you-can-watch Sunday Ticket, the traditional in-market games—the ones that built the NFL behemoth—would go unwatched. Giving fans access had to be balanced with keeping CBS, FOX, and NBC happy.

    Cheers,
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  12. James Long

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    I doubt that there were or are 11 million subscribers - even with today's nearly 20 million DIRECTV subscribers. "Available" to x million homes is not the same as having x million subscribers. But the best news (for the NFL and for the LA Dodgers) is that the "content owner" gets paid a lot of money whether the distributor has one channel or a billion. A guaranteed paycheck regardless of how many DIRECTV subscribers have the channels active on their accounts.

    If XFinity wrote a check for 1.6 billion dollars per year the conversation would change.
     
  13. cmasia

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    James,
    I read that quote to mean DirecTV had a total of 11,000,000 subscribers and cable had 80,000,000 when ST was created.
    So even with a buy rate of 2,000,000, the OTA's were placated knowing less than 3% of all cable / satellite households would have ST access.

    Again, everything could change before 2022. My point is FOX and CBS will have to be accommodated in any expansion.
     
  14. James Long

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    I believe Mr Bowlen was confused by the numbers, as many people are when networks claim to have a reach into x million homes (but do not have the ratings to back up having that many viewers). The confusion is obvious since there is no US cable operator with 80 million subscribers, and there never has been. "cable" isn't one company.

    If the NFL figures out how to collect more than $1.5 billion per year I'm sure that FOX and CBS will want their cut - even if there are less viewers (or less potential viewers). We are talking about for profit companies who are driven by the desire to collect more money. I'd bet that FOX and CBS would want more money even if the NFL cut a deal with a 10 million subscriber company for $500 million. Not greed, just business.
     
  15. bjdotson

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    I usually pause when my wife needs something. She knows how I am about football (especially Dallas) so she doesn't do it a lot, but when she does I am there for whatever she needs.
     
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    Yes, on a 75" TV, and often ad a second smaller TV.
     
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    Apparently the NFLST app on the Apple TV can do quad PIP.
     

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    I think the online app does that too

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  20. TheRatPatrol

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    It does.

    The ESPN and Fox Sports Apple TV apps do is as well. I wish the other sports aps would too, MLB/NHL/NBA, as well as the streaming providers.
     

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