Rollout of SWMLine to begin...

Discussion in 'DIRECTV - SWMLine Discussion (private)' started by RobertE, Apr 30, 2008.

  1. Apr 30, 2008 #1 of 126
    RobertE

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    I lifted part of a memo during todays meeting. :grin:

    Good news and bad news.

    Bad first, lets get it out of the way.
    Cleveland is NOT in the first wave of SWMline roll outs. :mad:

    The good news. :)

    Beginning 4/30/08 the SWMline will be released in 3 phases. There are 24 markets in phase 1. Some things to keep in mind when you look at this list. These are "markets" that DirecTv has set up. They may not necessarily match up with any specific DMA. Just whatever "market" your HSP covers. Additionally, just because the roll out has begun, don't expect, or give anyone the expectations that they will get a, SWMLine starting today. Those markets decide to use their existing stock of standard Slimlines up first.

    So it looks like we will be needing a first look (if there will be one) done up in short order.

    And those markets are....


    Drum roll please. :icon_band

    Austin
    Boston(Manchester, NH & VT
    Chicago
    Dallas-Fortworth
    Denver, NE, NV, WY
    Detroit
    Las Vegas
    Los Angeles 1 (not sure what parts are 1-3)
    Los Angeles 2
    Los Angeles 3
    Missoula, MT
    Monterey-Salinas, CA
    Phoenix
    Reno CA, NV
    Sacramento-Stockton-Modesto 1
    Sacramento-Stockton-Modesto 2
    San Diego
    San Francisco-Oakland-San Jose 1
    San Francisco-Oakland-San Jose 2
    Santa Barbara-Santa Maria- San Luisobispo
    Shreveport, AR, LA, OK, TX
    Washington DC 1 (Hagerstown) DC, MD, PA, VA
    Washington DC 2 (Hagerstown) DC, MD, PA, VA
    West Palm Beach - Fort Pierce
     
  2. Apr 30, 2008 #2 of 126
    Mike Bertelson

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    Interesting info, Thanks.

    Mike
     
  3. Apr 30, 2008 #3 of 126
    Stuart Sweet

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    Cool! Looks like they'll be available in the fall when I plan to replace my existing AT9.

    When you guys have something put together for the first look (you can do it as a separate file or as posts) let me or one of the other mods know so we can get it approved.
     
  4. Apr 30, 2008 #4 of 126
    spoonman

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    Do we know if we are allow to say we have one in the non-private forum :)
     
  5. Apr 30, 2008 #5 of 126
    RobertE

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    Until a first look and/or the green light from Earl, no, nothing is to be said outside this forum.
     
  6. Apr 30, 2008 #6 of 126
    Stuart Sweet

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    You are not allowed to post that you have a SWMline until after the First Look is published. After that you may say that you have one, but anything said in this forum, or any discussion of field test procedures, is right out.
     
  7. Apr 30, 2008 #7 of 126
    smiddy

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    I sent a my writeup to Earl, it isn't in a First Look format, however, I could perhaps tweak it to be that way. Earl can you make the file available to the rest of the folks for review as a starting point (it was too big to upload here directly in case anyone else is wondering)?

    BTW, I am in Baltimore and not at home to be able to tween it like I would like. however, if you wish to send me pictures, etcetera, I'd be willing to put the First Look together. So things that are needed and are important: 1) H20-600 writeup to talk to potential problems that have arrose. 2) Putting together the multiple splitter issues versus non-issuses we found along the way. 3) The different block diagrams on the way to set this up.

    I am open to taking suggestions too for inclusion.

    Mr. Shadow, will you be honcho-ing the editing duties a la DBSTalk?

    BTW, this is my 5,000 post here. I think about 3,500 of my posts have been within the field trials in one form or another. Man has it been fun or what? I truly love this place, it is like a second home to me. :D
     
  8. Apr 30, 2008 #8 of 126
    bwaldron

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    Congrats, oh green one! Thanks for all your contributions.
     
  9. Apr 30, 2008 #9 of 126
    smiddy

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    Thanks man, it is all fun. :D
     
  10. Apr 30, 2008 #10 of 126
    jwd45244

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    Probably the best the to say about the H20-600 and SWMLine is this:

    "During the field trials, we found the H20-600 to not consistently perform well with the SWMLine setup. Significant numbers of 771 messages were displayed when changing channels and even while watching live TV. Often, the regularly used methods to resolve 771 messages failed and the H20-600 had to be re-started."
     
  11. Apr 30, 2008 #11 of 126
    smiddy

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    Thanks, great paragraph.
     
  12. Apr 30, 2008 #12 of 126
    RobertE

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    I'll be lurking in the chat room later if anyone is looking for me. :)
     
  13. Apr 30, 2008 #13 of 126
    smiddy

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    Calling for pictures of the big and small box contents please. Please PM me with and I will send you an email address you can send them to me for inclusion in the First Look. Also, I know a lot of you did a piece-parts reinstall. Did anyone do a fresh install of the entire Slimline, hardware, and SL5S-ODU? I also would like a couple of clear pictures of the SWM Installation Meter in action (I can provide them, but I want to get this done by tomorrow evening (not tonight, I'm too tired now) and am away from my home where my photos are.
     
  14. May 1, 2008 #14 of 126
    66stang351

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    It is interesting that they highlight the claim that diplexing can't be done on a SWM line when we have seen it done many times with no issues.

    BTW, do they feel like field testing the ASL-1...I have to take down and re-aim my dish on a regular basis so I would give it a good work out.


    Oops, posted in the wrong thread...
     
  15. May 1, 2008 #15 of 126
    veryoldschool

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    You have to wonder what they were thinking or meant.
    As they say, the SWM8 has OTA diplexed in, which requires another diplexer to get it out. There are diplexers that pass DC to the dish, so is it the 2.3 MHz control signal? Perhaps if there are two diplexers in the line, this signal can get attenuated too much.

    It's nice to know the SWM channel frequencies, but I have to wonder if 974 MHz [for guide data] is the start frequency or the center frequency [given that the channels have 100 MHz bandwidth and 2 MHz spacing between them], so is this 974-1074 MHz or 924-1024 MHz? :confused:
     
  16. May 1, 2008 #16 of 126
    Hansen

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    Good paragraph. It would probably good to drop a footnote to comment that this issue occured on the SWMLine using LNB firmware x.x and software x.x and it is unknown if DirecTV's RD revised the firmware/software (in the LNB) to correct this problem for the national release of the SWMLine.
     
  17. May 1, 2008 #17 of 126
    David Ortiz

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    My H20-600 never gets past the Searching for Satellite Signal message. I tried using the line in the family room and the line going to one of my HR2x's (which I know works), but the result was the same. I was hoping to try again when the next software was available for the H20-600, but there hasn't been an update since.
     
  18. May 1, 2008 #18 of 126
    RobertE

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    Re: Diplexers, I think your right. To much loss on the 2.3Mhz control signal. Still wondering why they picked 2.3Mhz. :confused:
    I'm going to guess that DirecTv wants to get away from diplexing altogether. Just more stuff to go wrong.

    For the Guide channel, I think it is 974-1074. It falls in line with the other SWM channels.
     
  19. May 1, 2008 #19 of 126
    RobertE

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    Does a mod want to (or able to) post the SWM Training document up for the rest of the class?
     
  20. May 1, 2008 #20 of 126
    veryoldschool

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    I just used the guide as an example. It could/would be the same for all of the channels, but you maybe right since 960 MHz is cell phones.
     

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