Samsung QLED

Discussion in 'High Definition Displays' started by Rich, Jan 27, 2020.

  1. MysteryMan

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    I agree. Through the years I've always purchased high end TVs and had them professionally calibrated. Big difference in picture quality when calibrated.
     
  2. Rich

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    What's a shame is buying a set that has to be calibrated. How many hours have you spent watching a Samsung 4K set?

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  3. Rich

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    I'll ask you the same question, how many hours have you spent watching a Samsung 4K set?

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  4. MysteryMan

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    Not as many as you but enough to realize that as good as they look they'll look better calibrated.
     
  5. WestDC

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    DO you DIY -IT?
     
  6. Rich

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    If I thought it was necessary I'd do it. I don't think it's necessary on any of the six 4K sets I have. I'm not gonna keep repeating this. We all have different ways of doing things.

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    I've done it myself on my plasmas a few times. Got the discs, used them and then get the message: In a few weeks you'll get used to the picture or words to that effect. Used the settings from AVS too. Always reverted to what I had before. Wait a few weeks and you'll get used to it. More BS.

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  8. MysteryMan

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    Anyone ever buy a CB Radio? They work right out of the box. But any truck driver will tell you they work better when you have it peaked. That's why most of the truck stops have a CB Shop on or near the premises. Same with audio systems in today's cars. They too perform well but many people have their car's audio system modified or upgraded. Anyone who has a Home Theater system will tell you the AVR and speakers need to be calibrated for maximum performance. So why the animosity over calibrating a TV? Sure, today's high end TV's look damn good straight out of the box but if you can make them look even better by calibrating what's wrong with that?
     
  9. JerryMeeker

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    When doing a DIY calibration with software like CalMAN, there is a “before” and an “after” measurement, which clearly shows improved accuracy of white balance and color rendition. Whether you find a more accurate picture quality preferable to the out-of-box settings on your 4K display is a matter of taste. No one questions your right to choose what you watch, but calling it BS borders on ignorance.
     
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  10. Rich

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    I asked you one question. You haven't answered it. I'm not into assuming and I'm curious. Have you ever spent a few hours watching a Samsung 4K set? Or are you absolutely convinced that every set on the market has to be calibrated? I've tried the discs several times and didn't like the results. I have no intention or reason to do that again. The one experience I've had with a 4K Sony was more than enough for me. And, yes, I definitely could see a reason to get that thing calibrated.

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  11. James Long

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    I believe Rich's issue is that he had an acceptable picture out of the box but when the set was "calibrated" he had what he saw as a worse picture. The "BS" is that he was told that he should accept the "calibrated" setting and get used to it, since (by the numbers) it was "better". People should accept the picture that looks best to the viewer, not to a computer.

    I have a 4K Samsung set and "out of the box" it was extremely different from my old set (technology changes). I tried some of the presets and picked the one I liked the most. My old (2006) HD TV had a soft "movie" type picture (it was a tube HDTV). The new 4K TV has individual lit pixels -- a very sharp picture. I prefer a softer picture.

    It is a question of personal preference ... my set is configured to provide a good picture for human viewers. :)
     
  12. Rich

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    One more comment. I did not mean I think calibrating anything is BS. What I was referring to was the comments at the end of the disc calibrations. About it taking some time to get used to the changes. I thought I was pretty clear about that.

    How many 4K sets do you have? Right now, I have six. Here's a link to an article about this subject: Should you pay to get your new TV calibrated? in that article it says this:
    Calibration costs money, and while it will get the most out of your TV, the difference between a calibrated TV and a non-calibrated TV in its most accurate settings, like Movie or Cinema mode for example, usually isn't massive.

    Not that "massive". Why would I do this to a TV set with a picture I'm satisfied with? For over $500? That's $500 a set and I have six of them and they all have very good PQ. Maybe folks totally enamored of calibration would do that but not me.

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    Thanks. Glad to see someone understands. I feel like I entered into a discussion about religion. All my sets are configured as your set is, to the taste of the owner.

    All this has made me curious, I'll admit that. I always think I'm wrong when I get into arguments and I'd kinda like to see what a pro could do to the new set. I've made a couple calls and haven't been able to find a guy that will come to my home and do the calibration but I'll keep looking. Using those discs isn't the answer for me. But a guy with meters, that's a different story. It's gonna cost at least a quarter of what I paid for the new set but if it works...

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  14. MysteryMan

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    It's always been a question of personal preference. If you're fine with how your TV's picture quality looks out of the box then stick with it. Nothing wrong with that. For those who want better picture quality than what they're seeing out of the box then calibrating is the next step (calibration disc or professional calibration). If one wants calibrating via disc I recommend using the "Spears & Munsil UHD HDR Benchmark" disc. As for professional calibrating it's a matter of finding someone in your area. My TVs have always been professionally calibrated to provide the best picture for human viewing.
     
  15. TheRatPatrol

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    I’ve said this for years, but I don’t know why TVs don’t come calibrated from the factory. Probably too expensive.
     
  16. JerryMeeker

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    Strange that you ask. I recently helped my neighbor set up a new Samsung 65” QLED TV. After selecting what seemed like the best picture mode, and after watching it for a while, I felt that my calibrated Sony 75Z9F had a noticeably sharper and more pleasing picture quality. I suspect many of us here have their favorite TV manufacturers, and mine is Sony. And I have two 4K displays, both Sony’s.

    If your only experience is trying to calibrate a display using disks, then you are missing what I mean by calibration. I use a meter and CalMAN calibration software, which likely will produce better results than just using a disk, and I get a lot of satisfaction out of doing things like this for myself, just like I spend a lot of time fine-tuning my audio system. I appreciate that spending $500/display for six displays is something I would not be inclined to do, but for less than $500, you could have a meter plus the software, and do the calibration yourself—on all six displays. I understand if you don’t think it is worth it—whatever pleases you is what you should stick with.
     
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    I've been using nothing but Sony audio/video equipment for decades. My current displays are a Sony XBR-55X900F in our Family Room and a Sony Master Series XBR-A9G in my Home Theater Room. Sony's picture processors are the best in my opinion.
     
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