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Samsung Smart TVs Firmware 1024 and higher (RVU support) - Issues/Discussion

Discussion in 'DIRECTV HD DVR/Receiver Discussion' started by Stuart Sweet, Dec 10, 2011.

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  1. Dec 10, 2011 #21 of 260
    renen

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    I am really not familiar with the RVU client nor with the computing power on Samsung 6000 series, but it does sound logical that the RVU, at least on the current iteration, would not have the resources to decode the source stream into a usable format, I think it would be too much for Directv although they have done the incredible such as SWM and 1080P support on the HR20, to pull out of the HR2* "magic box of tricks" to provide a way to decode the stream.

    Also agree with you on the idea of a "Media Center Server", but thought when I originally saw on my TV the 4 HR20, before realizing that I had not upgraded the TV to firmware 1024 that maybe DTV could be thinking of providing a simple and inexpensive way for them to compete in a 2 TV's household market.

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  2. Dec 10, 2011 #22 of 260
    Sgt. Slaughter

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    gonna say i think its more of a hardware component that the older boxes lack that keeps them from being able to take on RVU.
     
  3. Dec 10, 2011 #23 of 260
    son512

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    Anybody know how the TV would connect to the HR34?
    Can you run the Coax cable to one of the antenna inputs or is it thru ethernet/wifi?

    I know the samsung can decode H.264 since I stream content (mostly 720p) from my NAS server.
     
  4. Dec 10, 2011 #24 of 260
    Sgt. Slaughter

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    wanna say itll be through ethernet or DECA dongle attached to coax pluging with other end getting you ethernet to your tv.
     
  5. Dec 10, 2011 #25 of 260
    Steve

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    If anything is being done to the source audio/video data at all, IMO, the HR34 is decrypting the source stream and re-encrypting it, though I'm not even sure it needs to work that hard. I say this because the RVU LAN clients are probably authenticated before they're allowed to communicate with the HR34 at all, so re-encryption may not be necessary from a DRM standpoint.

    My guess is the HR34 is just overlaying the RVU GUI when required, not terribly processor intensive. So if in fact the HR2x's are not capable of RVU, it wouldn't be because the HR34 has superior processing capabilities. If the HR34 does have a faster CPU and more memory, that extra horsepower is liekly being utilized to manage 5 tuners worth of scheduling and prioritization, and the ability to serve and manage up to three simultaneous client video streams with trickplay.

    BTW, I believe the processing horsepower required to re-encode H.264 in real time at the 8mbps-10mbps DirecTV MPEG-4 bitrates can probably only be found on the dedicated encoders DirecTV themselves use to transcode network source MPEG-2 feeds and uplink them to the satellites. Just my .02.
     
  6. Dec 10, 2011 #26 of 260
    Stuart Sweet

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    I downloaded the firmware last night. I was able to see RVU as an option by going to the source menu and scrolling all the way down. I'll try it tonight to see if it works.
     
  7. Dec 10, 2011 #27 of 260
    itzme

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    Im a little dissapointed that I cant use this feature on my Samsung D8000 with my HR24.
     
  8. Dec 11, 2011 #28 of 260
    Temoryian

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    One of the first posts in this thread said that all 6000 TV's were RVU compatible. I was under the impression that it was only the D6000 models or will my unc6900 model work? I've googled a ton and haven't seen anything definitive. Thanks.
     
  9. Dec 11, 2011 #29 of 260
    Alebob911

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    Try and do an update on your tv. If it says 1024 is available for download then your good to go as long as you have an HR34. If you do not have an HR34 then it is pointless because that is the only STB that supports RVU.
     
  10. Dec 11, 2011 #30 of 260
    Alebob911

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    Using anything less than a 5 tuner HDDVR (HR34) is pointless because it would tie up one of your tuners just to send you the video stream to your TV. You would always be having tuner/recording conflicts. That is why the HR34 has 5 tuners, 2 dedicated to a locally connected TV and 3 others for remote location viewing or if those are not active then it adds another tuner for recording.
     
  11. Dec 11, 2011 #31 of 260
    itzme

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    I see, and I'm beginning to understand. I guess I was always assuming that RVU would be a software version of authorizing my smart TV to de-encrypt a stream that was served either through my home network or deca, thus preventing the need for a another piece of hardware (a stb). I didn't think about the HR34 having to use one of its tuner's.

    Sounds like I need to add an HR34 to Santa's list.
     
  12. Dec 11, 2011 #32 of 260
    LameLefty

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    Well, it is a tiny bit more than that: you can also use the HR34 to serve up multiple previously-recorded program streams without tying up an active tuner - if you wanted that smart TV to be limited to ONLY watching pre-recorded content, then you wouldn't be using an active tuner.
     
  13. Dec 11, 2011 #33 of 260
    Stuart Sweet

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    I've updated post #1 with...

    This Setup Guide will help you configure the Samsung TV with an HR34 running the "blue UI."
     
  14. Dec 11, 2011 #34 of 260
    Laxguy

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    Nice! More drooling.....

    Can it be served via DECA with no additional hardware? Or does it always have to pop through the ethernet port?
     
  15. Dec 11, 2011 #35 of 260
    bobnielsen

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    I wonder if Samsung will support this on their Blu-ray players. They seem to have many of the other features of the smart TVs.
     
  16. Dec 11, 2011 #36 of 260
    Stuart Sweet

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    I have my hr34 connected via coax networking... At the moment I am not completely satisfied with the results but I'm still working on it.
     
  17. Dec 11, 2011 #37 of 260
    dettxw

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    Think you need a new D model, not the older C version
     
  18. Dec 11, 2011 #38 of 260
    inkahauts

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    What's not making you happy?

    And wow, I love the copy settings feature! Nice!
     
  19. Dec 11, 2011 #39 of 260
    markrogo

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    So this is authorized on your account or just at the box level? I realize you don't really pay for anything, but is this going to trigger a $6/month charge or not?
     
  20. Dec 11, 2011 #40 of 260
    NR4P

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    Thanks for the setup guide and screen shots. What kind of results are not up to your expectations?
     
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