Separate names with a comma.
Discussion in 'The OT' started by Drucifer, Feb 7, 2013.
couple years ago we got about 6 inches and everything was shut down for 3 days
Just heard that Massachusetts has issued a driving ban after 4pm ET. You could be pulled over and fined if caught driving.
I lived in Mass for 30+ years and had a 60 mile commute each way and I never recall an actual ban. They would say "official and essential personnel only" on the roads, but not an actual ban.
This storm is the kind of thing that MA hasn't seen since '78. And had they known what they were in for then, there would have been a ban then too. The highways were littered with abandoned cars. It was a complete disaster.
Massachusetts and Connecticut issued a ban on driving at 4pm. Rhode Island at 5.
The media is doing that so everyone will still drink the global warming kool-aid.
Just want to send my 'be safes' to those in the northeast
I'm going to throw something out there that I have thrown into the hat before...
I do feel for those who lost homes in the hurricane and who might be still homeless for the blizzard.
What about people who were already homeless before the hurricane and who also would still be homeless for this blizzard?
It's a shame that the always homeless aren't given as much consideration as the temporary-and-probably-insured "homeless" who will be back on their feet again thanks to insurance + government assistance.
Well then you have to separate the homeless by choice or action from the rest. I have greater sympathy for those who are homeless through no fault of their own.
And I find it unbelievable that with every major, minor, or anything in-between natural "disaster," those who are in any way whatsoever affected (and I refuse to refer to them as "victims") somehow believe that some level of the government, be it at the local, state, or federal level, is somehow responsible for the restoration of their well-being. Either buy the insurance, pay for it out of pocket if you don't, or shut the hell up.
Imagine, a snow event in the Northeast during winter! What are the odds?
For many affected by Sandy, they had insurance, and insurance isn't covering much/most of their losses. And having seen the devastation, I will refer to them as "victims".
If a government isn't there to protect and care for its citizens, what the Hell is it for?
Yours is the attitude of someone never affected like the people of New Orleans, NY/NJ coast, etc. have been.
And yours is the attitude of a whining, entitled taker, rather than a maker.
Not that it's any of your business, nor does it change anything with regard to one's responsibility as it relates to self-sufficiency, but I've personally lived through, survived, and "recovered" from multiple earthquakes, tornadoes, and hurricanes---never once expecting nor relying upon any government entity to make me whole.
My point of view emanates from effort, experience, and education. From what does yours derive?
I lived near Wichita Falls for a few years ... they closed school for a heavy frost. The small town I lived in did not have plows so they used road graders. Most people were shivering in their light jackets. We had moved there from Marquette Michigan. We were out in short sleeve shirts.
Then again, the first day of snow where I live now in Indiana is a good day to stay off the roads. People forget how to live in this stuff. :eek2:
Ok. wow. So you've lost everything from from multiple earthquakes, tornadoes, and hurricanes.
Now how did that earthquake insurance make you whole after losing your home? I've never seen that happen. And right now if my home collapsed in an earthquake I'd have to come up with about $50,000, though insurance supposedly would cover the rest. I'd like to believe a disaster relief loan would be available for the $50,000. I don't see that as being anything negative or bad.
But I can see a self-sufficient person living off the grid rebuilding with his own tools after digging them out of the rubble. But you can't be truly self-sufficient, living off the grid and posting here.
Governor draws anger, support for driving ban
From a friend in CT just a short time ago.
Uh, I've never taken any public assistance or government money in my life, even though there have been times when I certainly would have qualified. I managed to work hard and make sacrifices (still do) to make things work.
However, I have zero problem with my government helping those for which recovery is beyond their capabilities. If I were in a better position to help, I'd do it myself.
And by the way, you may refuse to call them "victims", but Websters does (minus the religious sacrifice part, of course).
I never said I lost everything from anything, nor did I mention anything about "living off the grid," but nice try at twisting my words (well, not really---it was actually a pretty feeble attempt).
The damages I have incurred as a result of natural disasters have all been covered via the insurance I chose to purchase or out of my personal funds. It's simply not any government's responsibility to replace one's personal assets---period. Attitudes to the contrary are part of the reason that we as a nation are in the financial straights we are.
Here are a couple of pictures from Norwich, CT.
I never said you were a taker, I said your attitude was of one---there's a difference.
I don't believe government, particularly at the Federal level, has any business being in the charity business, which is, in essence, what "disaster relief" is. And, too, at what point and scale do we begin or stop said "relief?" Is it at 1000 people affected? 100? 10? What about if your neighbor has his car stolen and he can't afford to replace it, should our benevolent Uncle Sam buy him a new one? Why not? How about if 1000 people have their vehicles stolen by an organized auto-theft ring? Should they be offered government assistance to replace those vehicles? If not, why not?
Unfortunately, the entitlement mentality is now so pervasive that it affects nearly everything and every event such that an attitude of self-sufficiency and responsibility is the rare exception, rather than the rule.
Before there are any issues let me remind everyone to keep it civil.