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Sat 119, Transponder 40, Channel 15848?

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  1. larrystotler

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    I found something really strange yesterday. A friend of mine picked up a JVC 4500 receiver. He wanted me to test it to see if it worked. The software was so old that it only had the 61.5, 119, and 148. When I ran the check switch, it only had 18 tests. It would see the 110 on the sig screen, but not on the test screen(wrong sat, 110 west). It showed the 119, so we canceled out to see if it would show a picture on channel 101. It kept getting an error on the 119, trans 11, and then, at one point after resetting it, it gave error on 119, transponder 40, channel 15848.......anybody have ANY clue what this is? After the receiver took the s/w update when I shut it off for 10 minutes, it was fine, and it wouldn't show this error anymore...
    Weird, to say the least.
     
  2. SimpleSimon

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    Just a SWAG here, but I think it might've just been some memory corruption caused by old software seeing something so new it couldn't handle it. Then the s/w update fixed it.
     
  3. larrystotler

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    Or maybe they just aren't telling us everything........................................ :)
     
  4. JohnH

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    More likely the receiver had a hiccup. There is no Tp 40 or channel 15848 in the system.

    Maybe it was seeing some Tp from DirecTV 7S. :)
     
  5. James Long

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    Was there a 15848 in the distant past?

    The error was that the receiver was looking for that channel and couldn't find it, not that it found the channel and didn't know what to do with it. On today's list I agree, there are no channels close to that number. (OpenTV Data channels are in the 19000 range and the download and EPG channels are way up in the 36800's. But you know that! :) )

    Wild guess is that the channel was used a long time ago ... At least the receiver managed to find the right software download channel to get the update. That would be very bad.

    Then again:
    There has NEVER been a transponder 40 ... so the receiver was just screwy.

    JL
     
  6. JohnH

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    The transponder 11 error may have been associated with the Channels in the 4000s, which are no longer there.
     
  7. Nick

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    The...
    Obviously, channel 15848 is the inter-galactic hailing channel.

    All extra-terrestrial civilizations of the Seventh Level or higher
    have snarked a Universal Accord to keep this channel open for
    space emergencies and pre-adolescent spawn abductions.
     
  8. stonecold

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    I have had this error before on old but still nib model 3000 that were auction off here locally when i retailer went bankrupt. I would plug it in to the my legacy dish 500 and before it took the update I would get the same error wit hthe name mysterious tp 40. I dont remember the channel number other than it started with 15but it probably the same number.
     
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    Way to go Nick. I thought that Green lantern told us not to reveal that info outside of the Justice League.
     
  10. ehren

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    Damn I thought maybe it was Comcast SportsNet Philadelphia.
     
  11. ypsiguy

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    Comcrap....ugh. Don't get me started on them. :lol:
     
  12. ypsiguy

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    Probably the transponder for the onboard laser weapon. DirecTV 7S will soon be space junk. The 110 episode the other day was a misfiring of the weapon.
    :grin:
     
  13. larrystotler

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    Actually, I didn't know that. As for never having a transponder 40, keep in mind that each company has "extra" transponders for "backup". Would it really be that much of a stretch to think that it could have been there, but that we can't see it? Not trying to start a conspiracy theory, but......
     
  14. larrystotler

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    Thanks. I'm not crazy. Unless you are crazy, and then I would not care.....
    :)
     
  15. James Long

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    Oh, there are extra transponders - but only 32 transponder frequencies to be used (and that is further limited by the licenses held). Whatever transponders are powered up are referred to by the transponder frequency number, a receiver wouldn't be looking for 40.

    Internally E* does number the transponders by satellite -
    On 119: Conus Transponders 2, 4, 6, 8, 10-21, and spotbeams 41, 43, 45, 47, 49, 51, 53, 55, 57, 61, 63, 65, 67, 69, 71, 73, 75, 77, 79, 81, 83, 85, 87, 89
    On 110: Conus Transponders 201, 203, 205, 207, 209, 211-227, 229, 231,
    and spotbeams 242, 244, 246, 248, 250, 252, 254, 256, 258, 260, 262, 264, 266, 268, 270, 272, 276, 280, 282, 286, 288, 290

    On 61.5: Conus Transponders 102, 104, 106, 108, 110, 112, 114, 116, 118, 120, 122 - (104 and 116 not in current use?)
    And SkyAngel's License: 125-132 (with 128 dead and E* using five for their channels)

    On 148: Near Conus Transponders 301-332, with a few not used

    On 121: Conus FSS 501-532, with many not yet used

    On 105: Conus FSS 601-624, with many not used (but bigger transponder bandwidth - they divided the 500MHz by 24 instead of 32 on that bird)

    On 129: They still have 417 listed for the EPG on the old FSS bird.

    But even when your dish is seeking a missing transponder it doesn't give the "internal number" ... and even if through some fluke it did, there is no transponder 40 ...

    JL
     
  16. P Smith

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    JL, you should know before post it - transponder_id and transponder number, ie FCC frequiency/polarity are different things. I would correct your message and name them as TIDs.
     
  17. James Long

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    Clarification for newbies:
    The "internal numbers" in my post refers to the TID that is transmitted in the unscrambled system tables. You most likely will never see these numbers on the screen in either setup screens or error messages.

    The FCC refers to transponders by a different set of numbers. Those are the numbers you see in the setup screens and error messages.

    We now return to non-newbie explainations.
    If confusion remains, feel free to ask!

    JL
     
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