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Satellite TV Scam

Discussion in 'DIRECTV General Discussion' started by Chris Blount, Jul 1, 2012.

  1. usnret

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    I, when I spot a "salesperson" sometimes grab the Mossburg before I answer the door. Don't know why but the "salesperson" usually say that they have the wrong address, or some such. I too have been on Medicare for quite a few years and still like to build my own computers.
     
  2. Xsabresx

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    Not necessarily.

    I am in San Antonio and I think one of those dudes came to my door last weekend. He had a shirt on that had a Directv logo on the sleeve and a Dish logo on the chest. I dont even remember the way he presented it to me, but I came away with the impression that he was a dealer basically switching Directv people to Dish and Dish people to Directv. Basically whichever one you had you could save money going to the other.

    I didnt really see him as a scammer. To me he was just an idiot because he said "I can 100% guarantee that Dish isnt losing AMC"
     
  3. dielray

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    I have to wonder how exactly they presented it, and if the lady exaggerated any. It is not out of the realms of possibility for the installers to claim it's a joint program. It is also not impossible for the lady to have understood what was going on. Maybe she just didn't like dish, and calling her local news was the only way she could get Dish to let her out of her contract. The lack of both sides is what makes me wonder. In my experience, one sided stories tend to be slightly exaggerated.
     
  4. wilbur_the_goose

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    For those of you that lambaste older people for being easy scam targets - how many "young" people lost everything to Bernie Madoff?

    It has nothing to do with age - it has everything to do with not thinking things through.
     
  5. dpeters11

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    And how much money has been made from the Nigerian 419 scams? When I first saw one, I thought it was so ridiculous, how could someone fall for it. I didn't realize until recently that was by design.
     
  6. n3vino

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    I'm in S.A. too. It appears that these guys do selling and installing for both companies. Did it even occur to this lady to ask how the savings would work, or how the savings would take effect? Didn't she notice they were replacing D* receivers with Dish receivers? Or did they somehow give her the impression she was getting both services, and a discount to boot?

    I agree with you that they were most likely switching from D* to dish and from dish to D*, and as new customers, they get the promo prices. Door to door salesmen and those salesmen at department stores, are fast talkers and deal in half truths. I don't do business on the spot. If it sounds to good to be true, it usually is.

    I remember one guy came to my door saying that they were updating security alarm systems. He came across as just getting the systems in my neighborhood updated. I then asked him what was advantagous for them to update my equipment. He then said that we would have to sign up with them to monitor the system. The SOB was selling security services. I wonder at what point they tell people that they have to sign under the dotted line, and what they tell them that they are signing.

    I've also dealt with mortgage schisters too. They were very surprised that I didn't go for it on the spot. Then after they left, I checked the numbers and they were pretty much not what they said. There were several big red flags. They don't have offices in S.A., and the loan amount, after 13 years, was going to be bigger than what my original loan had been. The so called loan officers work out of their car, and come to your house, and put you through a presentation. I later worked with my own mortgage company and what a huge difference. The loan amount was for just a little more than the balance. But that's another story.

    BTW, I'm at the age where I qualify for Medicare.
     
  7. MysteryMan

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    Maybe, but it beats being young, arrogant, and stupid. :sure:
     
  8. TheRatPatrol

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    Guys like that also stake out the neighborhoods to see who has alarm systems. If you don't then they come back and break into your house while you're gone.
     
  9. Rich

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    Well, you beat me to it again. Don't know how old Mr. Marlin is, but that was an unnecessary comment he made.

    Rich
     
  10. Rich

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    Gotta have a permit to solicit in our town and it's enforced. Just takes a phone call to the police station and a cop appears pretty quickly.

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  11. TheRatPatrol

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    Oh I agree with you, but that doesn't stop them, well unless the cops show up.
     
  12. Rich

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    Our cops do show up almost immediately. One thing we have plenty of here in the 23rd (gotta laugh every time I think of this..:lol:) best place to live in the country is cops.

    Rich
     
  13. caseyf5

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    Hello Marlin Guy,

    Are they the only ones? The scammers are willing to pick on anyone they can. Take the financial industry. They took us for trillions of dollars. Are you an old person? What about the other 300 million. Are they only old persons or are there some other age groups included?
     
  14. Chris Blount

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    I tend to agree with the others. I bet this is a local company switching people from one provider to the other. I would still call it a scam though just by the way they represent themselves.

    The lady mentioned in the video that they were there until after 9 doing the install (not so unusual actually). She also mentions that they threw the old dish in the trash which is very feasable.

    I think the lady just wasn't completely aware of what was happening and got taken by a slick talking salesman.

    BTW, lets get off the young and old thing. Everyone is gullable in one way or another.
     
  15. Stuart Sweet

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    I watched the news piece and like all of you, that's all I know. All I know is that someone approached this person, that someone claimed to represent DISH and DIRECTV. They offered to save this person money.

    As a new customer, this person probably would have saved money.

    I'm sorry this person didn't like that the old dish was tossed and the tech stayed until the job was done but that is standard operating procedure.

    There really isn't enough evidence to say if this person was being swindled, or if they just didn't understand what was being offered. Instead of being fair, it seems like the news program just chose to create a sensationalistic piece that (possibly unfairly) characterizes third party installers as scammers.

    Maybe this person was a scammer but other than the allegation that this person claimed there was a joint venture, I see nothing to suggest that.
     
  16. mnassour

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    It sounds like an installer just trying to create some commissions by creating some churn.
     
  17. Chris Blount

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    That's what I was thinking as well but I guess we will never know how things actually went down during the sale.
     
  18. HoTat2

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    Anybody else having trouble getting the video to this piece to play?

    I've tried it on two different computers now, and all I get is a slow spinning pinwheel icon as though the video is loading to which it never does.
     
  19. MysteryMan

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    Just checked, it's playing on my PC.
     
  20. HoTat2

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    Just checked others and can't get any videos to play from this site for some reason.

    Hummm ... :scratch:
     

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