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Sci Fi Channel changing name, logo

Discussion in 'TV Show Talk' started by Wire Paladin, Mar 16, 2009.

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  1. tadtam

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    Isn't this why NBC's programming is at the ratings bottom? The guys at the top have "KNOW KLOO"

    FOX will probably come out with Sci-Fi Fox and have a hit...
     
  2. Mark Holtz

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    At what point do I start feeling alienated?
     
  3. Jtaylor1

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    What next for CN? Real Kids Network?

    I tell you, NBCU is shooting itself in the foot.
     
  4. GaryPotter

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    Cartoon Network isn't going to rebrand itself. Stop posting that on every forum you join.
     
  5. dave1234

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    When no more aliens are present on Sci-Fi!
     
  6. bicker1

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    This is a perfect example of how there is no way to "win"... Perhaps the most common online discussion topic regarding the Sci Fi Channel is how much of its programming doesn't meet hardcore science fiction fans' expectations for what Sci Fi is and what a channel ostensibly devoted to science fiction should be. This name-change very clearly distances the channel from that myopic, narrow, limited perspective of what the channel should be. The new name, while not "perfect", is far closer to perfection with regard to describing what the channel presents.

    That is also completely incorrect. Sci Fi cannot trademark anything using the term Sci Fi, because it is too familiar, too widely used. Syfy is sufficiently unique that they can trademark it, and therefore capitalize better on branding opportunities. Remember: NBC/U is not a charity. They are a for-profit enterprise. They have to answer to a "higher authority" than even their viewers: Their owners.
     
  7. Wire Paladin

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    NBC seems to want to get it's biggest bang for the buck. They tend to recycle shows/events across channels. Its amusing and sad watching the same guests appear on the same day at Today on NBC, Morning Joe on MSNBC and Squawk Box on CNBC.

    It looks like at times that they want to put more emphasis on being part of the NBC universe instead of the uniqueness of the specific channel. Sometimes I get the feeling the channels should just be renamed NBC 1, NBC 2 and so on.:rolleyes:

    But on the positive side, at least they didn't have Cramer guest star on BSG.:)
     
  8. Rich

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    Unfortunately, or fortunately, English is an evolutionary language as opposed to French, which seems to be a dying language because it is not permitted to evolve.

    Look at how many words have changed in our lifetimes. Decimation now means total destruction, when it's original meaning was "one in ten". 20 years ago "America" was not in most dictionaries. 20 years ago "prioritize" was not in any dictionary (give or take a few years on both). I have dictionaries that cost my company a good bit of change and I made sure I got a brand new one every year. Usually Merriam Webster dictionaries or the most expensive ones in the catalogs that we used. I still have a couple. No "America", no "prioritize", etc. The spell checker I am using on my laptop right now recognizes "irregardless" as a word. "Proactive" is another word such as "irregardless" that is redundant and yet has become common in usage and has found it's way into our dictionaries.

    We teach our kids on the baseball field to give "110%" or more. Can't wait until that hits the dictionaries. Nobody under the age of 50 seems to understand the meanings of simple words such as "next" and "free".

    As all this bothers you, so does it bother me and yet I understand the reasoning behind adding "new'' words every time the dictionaries are updated. The freedom to change is not something we should take lightly when it comes to our language, for without it we might as well all be using a structurally rigid language such as French. And stagnating as the French are now doing.

    I agree with your post wholeheartedly, I shudder every time I watch a boxing match and the announcer says Joe Blow is getting "decimated". But, the evolution of our language is important and it's just something we have to put up with.

    To get back on topic, there aren't many true science fiction shows on the Sci-Fi channel any more and their movies are mostly disappointing. Once Battlestar Galactica is over, what else do they have?

    Rich
     
  9. Rich

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    As usual, succinct and true. And very Shakespearean, I might add.

    Rich
     
  10. trainman

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    I suspect that had to do with how the dictionary editors were treating geographical terms and/or capitalized words. The word "America" has existed since circa 1507, and its main current connotation (i.e., a short way to refer to the U.S.) was basically fixed in 1776, when the Declaration of Independence referred to the colonies as "the United States of America."
     
  11. Charise

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    I'm hoping Eureka will be returning and I'll still watch Sanctuary. I'll also check out the new Stargate episodes when they start. That's about it for me, but as much as I like the genre, I've only watched about three to four shows per season anyway. When they started Eureka and The Dresden Files, I watched more, but DF, which was my favorite, only lasted one season.

    I look to this channel for more quirky shows and characters (not especially monsters) that you can't find elsewhere. I don't particularly like SyFy as the new name, but I understand the reason for it. Now if they could just have more shows that actually fit the SciFi/SyFy category, I would be happier and watch more.
     
  12. Rich

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    I know what you mean. But try to find a dictionary from about the middle 80s that had "America" in it. I didn't come up with this, I read about it and couldn't believe it and hauled out a couple good old dictionaries and, sure enough, no "America".

    I did some research out of curiosity and the first mention I found was of someplace on the west coast and I think it was from the 1500s. Just a section and that was preceded by another name just as "North America" is. Seems unbelievable, but try it. You'll see what I mean.

    Rich
     
  13. Rich

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    I just read something about Eureka and I think it's dead. I do watch Sanctuary and had forgotten about it when I posted. I thought Stargate was dead too, no? Stargate Atlantis finished up for good and unless they find a new way to present it...

    Oh, and I do watch Doctor Who on it. But that's not many shows. FX has a good lineup and a few other channels, but SciFi seemed to get a little off track the last couple of years. Strange that a channel that can produce a really good series in Battlestar Galactica can't come up with better material.

    Rich
     
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    Eureka returns this summer. There are still 13 episodes in Season 3 that have yet to air, and there has been no decision yet about Season 4.

    And many people don't consider Eureka to be science fiction, but rather a futuristic soap opera.
     
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    Actually Eureka will be coming back this summer and on the same day it premiers is the day they're changing the name to SyFy. As for Stargate, they're coming out with a new Stargate show, so it's not quite dead yet, whether there's any compelling stories left in that universe, well that we'll have to wait and see about I guess.
     
  16. jadebox

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    The channel presents "SyFy?" :confused:

    -- Roger
     
  17. wagman

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    As I mentioned in another thread, I just don't like the direction this channel has taken.

    It was great, back in the day, to flip to the channel and find sci-fi content. I keep a broad definition of "sci-fi", which includes fantasy and generalized science or pseudo-science as a basis for the story (Asimov wrote quite a number of stories that were based on hard science, yet were fiction; therefore, the two came together as science fiction, as I see it).

    Now, I can't pull up the ole guide and see much programming that falls into my definition of sci-fi. I don't consider ghost hunting, presented as a reality show, to be sci-fi. Ghost hunting as a fictional series would fall under fantasy to me, which I consider okay for the genre.

    Wrestling? Oh yeah, there's a good fit! Get real, you morons that are making these changes...the reason your "core audience" watched for all these years and made you financially viable was that you had the decency not to put wrestling on your lineup (at least that's the way I see it)!
     
  18. DarkSkies

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    So far all articles I've seen on the name change have had the "F" as lowercase. I'm sorry, but when I see "Syfy", I can't help but think "Syphillis". Not a good association to be making!
     
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    Absolutely; a word they make up can be whatever they want it to be.
     
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