I just spoke with Scott at solid signal and he says if i get an HR34 that it requires DECA to get on demand and pay per view???? I told him i have 2 hd dvr's now hr20, hr21 and dont have deca (hardwired ethernet) and can get on demand and pay per view............he's like "um, ok" and went on to say "well hmm i dont know if u can get on demand and pay per view via hardwired ethernet on an hr34 i am pretty sure u need Deca".
How do u hookup a band stop filter? Just like the b-band converters? Run the coax coming to the HR34 into the band stop filter then put the input from the band stop filter into the Hr34?
I'm sure this is a question for VOS but I think putting the BSF on the HR34 like that could cause permanent damage to the small RF transmitter that is in the 34 that converts the Ethernet into coax network (RF) because they both operate together.
I wouldn't say never. What if you end up with a receiver in the future that doesn't have an Ethernet jack and you want it connected to the network? So far it's on,y the H25, but could be more in the future.
I'm sure this is a question for VOS but I think putting the BSF on the HR34 like that could cause permanent damage to the small RF transmitter that is in the 34 that converts the Ethernet into coax network (RF) because they both operate together.
Well if/when hd-dvr's with ethernet ports become obsolete and not in use or supported anymore then i'll cross that bridge when i get to it. I mean i had my hr20-100 and hr20-700 since 2007 before i replaced my hr20-100 with an HR21 and now getting an HR34 to replace my HR20-700.
You wouldn't be messing with anything, just putting a small box inline on your connection. A much better networking experience too. But go with what you feel is best.
I found Wireless and DECA to have the exact same performance in my 2 story house. I stuck with DECSA though, as I did not want the wireless adapter showing on my dresser. This was with 2 DVRs.
Why, I don't understand the resistance? If the HR34 is your only receiver then no you don't need a BSF, if you add another receiver that has built in coax network then it will automatically connect to the network via the HR34 so why run BSF's and connect Ethernet, seems like adding dongles just for the sake of adding them. Being that you'll have SWiM and an HR34 it would only be logical to use the coax network if you added another receiver.
I'm sure this is a question for VOS but I think putting the BSF on the HR34 like that could cause permanent damage to the small RF transmitter that is in the 34 that converts the Ethernet into coax network (RF) because they both operate together.
Upon further research, (thanks scott, vos) you'd want to place a bsf as far away as possible front the HR34, if for some odd ball reason you'd want todo that. Deca is just easier, and just plain works. Deca allows Whole Home Service even when your router is down or screwy. I truly see no reason to ever use an Ethernet network for your system when you have an HR34.
Well I've been using hardwired ethernet/router for my WHDVR service since it was in beta stage and I've never had one single issue/problem with it. I just like it the way I have it. Just my personal choice.
Well I've been using hardwired ethernet/router for my WHDVR service since it was in beta stage and I've never had one single issue/problem with it. I just like it the way I have it. Just my personal choice.
That's fine, but when you change equipment that conflicts with that design, it might be time to change that design to better fit the new hardware your adding. What you are using now,it wasn't designed with deca in mind from the ground up, so it didn't really matter. The hr34 was. I wouldn't change either just for the sake of changing with the equipment you have today, but when you add the hr34, id sunset the old way, as you now have real tangible reason too.. Just a thought.
That's fine, but when you change equipment that conflicts with that design, it might be time to change that design to better fit the new hardware your adding. What you are using now,it wasn't designed with deca in mind from the ground up, so it didn't really matter. The hr34 was. I wouldn't change either just for the sake of changing with the equipment you have today, but when you add the hr34, id sunset the old way, as you now have real tangible reason too.. Just a thought.
Yah see i havent made my mind up completely yet b/c i wont get my HR34 from solid signal til fri or saturday at the earliest. If i really like it and with the 5 tuners i really wont need another dvr (i might just unplug one and not de-activate it and keep it as a backup receiver). The only reason i even have a hd dvr in the bedroom is for the extra 2 tuners to utilize via my hardwired ethernet whole home dvr. I cant remember the last time i watched tv in the bedroom.
Now of course if i change my mind and decide i want a receiver in the bedroom i already have a band stop filter on it's way from solid signal. Just to be prepared for any scenario.
How do u hookup a band stop filter? Just like the b-band converters? Run the coax coming to the HR34 into the band stop filter then put the input from the band stop filter into the Hr34?
If you decide to add another receiver to the mix then I would add the BSF to that receiver. If the 34 is the only receiver on your SWiM switch or LNB then don't worry about it.
But why change if the HR34 will work fine with hardwired ethernet just by adding a BSF to my HR21? If the HR34 absolutely wouldnt work with hardwired ethernet then yes i'd change. But as long as there is a workaround and a way to keep my existing setup i'm going to keep it this way. Again, just my personal preference.
But why change if the HR34 will work fine with hardwired ethernet just by adding a BSF to my HR21? If the HR34 absolutely wouldnt work with hardwired ethernet then yes i'd change. But as long as there is a workaround and a way to keep my existing setup i'm going to keep it this way. Again, just my personal preference.
But why change if the HR34 will work fine with hardwired ethernet just by adding a BSF to my HR21? If the HR34 absolutely wouldnt work with hardwired ethernet then yes i'd change. But as long as there is a workaround and a way to keep my existing setup i'm going to keep it this way. Again, just my personal preference.
You are missing my point. Right now, I can make the argument you are not using a workaround per se. Going to an HR34 you will have to create a workaround, no exception. I've never seen a workaround that was generally better than the actual solution. This case is no exception.
I noticed I even got better response when I went all deca with trickplay, etc.
I have learned that the bsf will reflect back the signal to the HR34. (hence putting the bsf far away from the hr34) Not an optimal solution. It's better if that signal goes somewhere and gets used somehow.
Sure you can make it work, but why choose a non optimal path? Guess I just don't get why you prefer your workaround, as you haven't stated the reason other than it works now. I am looking for an actual quantifiable advantage to sticking with it, and I can't see one with an HR34. I can only see disadvantages.
Well i dont use trickplay on my dvr's. I basically just watch recordings from the other dvr and play, fast forward and rewind. It all works great ...for me....with my hardwired ethernet.
I really do appreciate the feedback and advice. But this is just my personal preference to keep the ethernet for my whole home.
Well i dont use trickplay on my dvr's. I basically just watch recordings from the other dvr and play, fast forward and rewind. It all works great ...for me....with my hardwired ethernet.
I really do appreciate the feedback and advice. But this is just my personal preference to keep the ethernet for my whole home.
Guys, I think we've got to the point with this thread where the thread starter has stated his intentions. Thanks everyone for helping.
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