Instead of describe the problems and go on and on about how bad the SD pictures are, i took some pictures from my TV. (pictures are better than talk) These pictures have been taken on a HD LCD TV, hooked up on the S video to a DVR R15 (best connection on the R15). The pictures come from KIng 5 Seattle (NBC affiliate) Just look at the pictures, and notices the BIG vertical bars :nono2: :eek2: Look at all the echos in the pictures :eek2: Look at the person on the picture we can see him 3 times (echos) :nono2: :eek2: I know that Directv use heavy compression on SD locals, but i start to wonder if the local channels are sending from the source bad pictures. When you see this picture, i don't think it' Directv problems , but the local channels that send bad picture quality to Directv. I've noticed the same thing to Komo 4 (ABC) and other channels here in Seattle area and sometimes it is even worse, we can see some vertical lines that come and go :nono2: :eek2: Of course i have the same problem with my HR20 (hooked up with the HDMI), and my other Tivo. Is there someone that check picture quality at Directv or from the channels themselves. Mmmmm, now I WONDER??????