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Self upgrade from HD to HD DVR - Dish/Coax questions

Discussion in 'DIRECTV Installation/MDU Discussion' started by turbovr6, Feb 19, 2011.

  1. turbovr6

    turbovr6 AllStar

    May 17, 2007
    Hello all,

    I have some questions that I hope you guys can answer for me..

    My roommate moved out and left me with just the dish(he was the account owner). We did self install back in the day(single LNB), and all dish upgrades so I am comfortable with doing installs.

    I currently have the slimline dish with one coax connected that was feeding the HD receiver in the living room.

    I went to the direct tv site today and am ready to subscribe. I'm not a fan of installers messing up my house, plus as a technical guy by trade, I prefer to do my own work.

    My question is what will I need to do if I want to subscribe, get an HD DVR with the whole home option and add a second receiver in the bedroom?

    Will I need to connect more lines to the dish? (currently just have one) or can I use a multi switch?

    I am trying to plan ahead to get this done as easy as possible once I sign up for new service and they send me all the equipment.

  2. veryoldschool

    veryoldschool Lifetime Achiever Staff Member Super Moderator DBSTalk Club

    Dec 9, 2006
    You're going to have to change to a SWiM system/dish for the MRV service, or go completely unsupported with ethernet.
    SWiM LNB, PI, splitter, and DECA for the coax networking between receivers.

    There is a whole forum about this here: http://www.dbstalk.com/forumdisplay.php?f=137
  3. turbovr6

    turbovr6 AllStar

    May 17, 2007
    Thank you for the reply! I feel that I may be over complicating my needs by including the whole home option.

    I'm not really concerned about the whole home option, but it appears to be included when you order new service with a DVR.

    My goal is to get an HD DVR working in the living room with the Direct Cinema option and an HD receiver working in the bedroom. Honestly, Bedroom TV use is infrequent, so I may even nix that idea if it proves to be a hassle.

    I have no landline, but my router is in the living room with all the home theater equipment.

    I guess what I am really wondering at this point is if:

    for a dvr do I need to add a second coax from the dish or is there a way to add a multi switch to the one existing coax and then split it to the HD DVR and possible a HD box in the bedroom? Getting to the dish is a PIA and it's still cold here in Jersey to be playing on a ladder!

    Thanks again, sorry if my first post was a total waste :nono2:

    Thanks again
  4. sungam

    sungam Legend

    May 10, 2007
    If we assume that what you have is a conventional or legacy dish with only one cable attached, as opposed to a SWiM dish which only needs one cable, then there's nothing you can do to turn the one cable you have into two or three feeds. The only option would be to run additional cables from the dish to the second tuner on the DVR and to the added bedroom receiver.
  5. veryoldschool

    veryoldschool Lifetime Achiever Staff Member Super Moderator DBSTalk Club

    Dec 9, 2006
    Non SWiM means you need to have one coax running to each tuner. The LNB has four outputs, so you'd need to run three coax [two to the DVR & 1 to the receiver].
    There is no other way to get both tuners working, unless you move to the SWiM system. The SWiM only has a single output and then you split it as needed and each receiver only uses the SAT #1 input [DVRs feed both tuners off this].
    Ethernet works fine for the Cinema feature.
  6. Shades228

    Shades228 DaBears

    Mar 18, 2008
    You're going against the grain here as they will do the installation if you order it through them.
  7. carl6

    carl6 Moderator Staff Member DBSTalk Club

    Nov 15, 2005
    Seattle, WA
    I guess the first question is what kind of dish was left? If it is the 18" round dish, then it must be replaced with a Slimline. If there is already a Slimline dish installed, then we need to know if it is an SWiM LNB or a regular LNB (one coax connector or 4 coax connectors).

    However, I'm not sure DirecTV will even let you establish a new account with a self-install. I think they require an installer to be involved.

    The Slimline dish will not mount on the same mount that the 18" round dish mounts on. If your existing dish is the round one, then you will also need a new mounting foot/mast.

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