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Setup for Non HD Channels

Discussion in 'DIRECTV General Discussion' started by DKNY330, Sep 17, 2011.

  1. DKNY330

    DKNY330 Cool Member

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    Just got Direct TV installed today - it was a 10 hour install but that's for another thread!

    Nown that all is setup, I have a question regarding Non HD channels and how to get them to look the best they can. Cablevision who I just switched from seemed to have much crisper picture than Direct TV. I hope there is something I can do in the setup menu to make it look better than it does now. All my TV's are HD. Thanks -
     
  2. sigma1914

    sigma1914 Well-Known Member DBSTalk Club

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    SD sucks on DirecTV compared to decent cable systems.
     
  3. DKNY330

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    I wish I knew this before I switched! Can't they do something to improve it or at least get more channels in HD?
     
  4. tonyd79

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    SD is not good on most Directv channels.

    You can use native on with 480i and allow your tv to do the upscaling. Usually helps some. Also, adjust your tv for SD through calibration or eyeballing. If you have multiple picture settings, set one up for SD although a good setting for SD should be good for hd as well.
     
  5. jdspencer

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    What channels do you need in HD?
    See this thread.
    http://www.dbstalk.com/showthread.php?t=194351
     
  6. DKNY330

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    So I should set up the Native option to be on in Video settings? Will this have any implications on anything else? Thanks
     
  7. tonyd79

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    It will take a bit longer to change channels when the resolution changes because of hdmi handshakes. You can determine if that is livable or not.
     
  8. mini1

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    What is your receiver set on right now? Native or upscale everything to 1080i?

    Best solution..... don't watch SD channels. The only two SD channels I watch are E! and BBCA and that is ONLY because D* still does not carry them in HD.
     
  9. DKNY330

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    How do you change the settings to upscale everything to 1080i?
     
  10. HoTat2

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    If that's what you wish to do, have the receivers convert all programs to only one resolution, 1080i.

    Under the "HDTV" ----> "Video" category in the Setup Menu, "Native" can be on or off. In the "HDTV" -----> "TV Resolutions" category, uncheck all resolutions except 1080i

    (And check 1080P as well if you wish mostly for HD PPVs through VOD and some linear HD and the TV set is capable of receiving a 1080P/24Hz signal format.)

    Keep the "FORMAT" option on the remote control set for "Pillar Box" display. Otherwise you will get "stretch-o-vision" whenever you tune to a 4:3 SD channel as almost all SD is which are broadcast by DIRECTV.
     
  11. Barcthespark

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    That's not really much of a solution.
     
  12. HoTat2

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    But that's the point, there are no real solutions to this which are available to the subscriber here. :nono:

    DIRECTV only provides about 480 x 480 pixel resolution on the SD channels, which may be acceptable on analog SDTVs and the smaller flat panels. But on the larger flat panels around 42 in. and up increasingly used today, that low a resolution is quite telling to put it mildly.
     
  13. richard1428

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    has directv SD always been like that? or when did they start to compress them?
     
  14. HoTat2

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    No it hasn't always been this bad;

    But ... in a nutshell with the SD bandwidth still he same 27 MHz wide 32 transponders at the one spot at 101 W and DIRECTV's SD channel lineup approximately doubling since they began broadcasting in '94, throw in the inclusion of over 30 full time Regional Sports Networks (RSNs) that need greater bandwidth on average than others, and the use of much less efficient MPEG-2 compression. The number of channels per transponder has gone from about 5-6 in the early days to some 10-12 today.

    Therefore DIRECTV has to resort to tricks down-rezzing the source material to 480 x 480 today to squeeze all the channels in their limited bandwidth at 101.
     
  15. harsh

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    It beats adding a service that does offer these channels in HD or buying your way out of the commitment.
     
  16. harsh

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    You're not giving credit to the improvements in encoding and modulation technology.

    Looking at the TPN maps, some of the transponders seem to have as many as 15 channels (D8 TP3). Music channels seem to run about 2:1.
     
  17. paulman182

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    Works for a great many of us.
     

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