Share Dish with Separate Power Units

Discussion in 'DIRECTV HD DVR/Receiver Discussion' started by sansabar, Apr 18, 2014.

  1. sansabar

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    I currently have two dishes serving two different locations about 200 feet apart.
    The LNB has gone out on my HR21 setup plus tree coverage is creating a problem.
    My HR44 setup servicing my home still has a clear line of sight.
    I would like to go to one dish servicing both receivers.
    If I were to attempt to run from the powered unit of the HR44 to the HR21 it would require a 250 ft run.
    Too long plus a LOT of burying.
    However, I was wondering if it was possible to use the good dish and power it from my HR21? That would require a little over 100ft.
    My only other option is to place another dish near my good dish for service since line of sight has become a major problem in my HR21 setup.
    Thoughts? Ideas?
    Thanks.

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  2. carl6

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    Your good dish (near the house) is powered by a power inserter. You don't want to move that any farther from the dish than where it is located. 250 feet is not too long for just the rf signal, but you might want to use RG11 rather than RG6 for that run.
     
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  4. peds48

    peds48 Genius.

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    why not run a line from the good dish to the bad dish and splice there. Distances on that graph would help tremendously


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  5. RBA

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    Any reason you can't just replace the bad LNB?
     
  6. jimmie57

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    This is his second line of the original post.
    The LNB has gone out on my HR21 setup plus tree coverage is creating a problem.

    Edit: Add: Don't let this get to you. I am guilty of this same thing in posts in the past. It is very easy to do.
     
  7. peds48

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    Amazing, people respond without reading


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  8. veryoldschool

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    We're moving to a 140 character limit with our brains. :nono:
     
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  9. peds48

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    I am afraid you are right


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  10. sansabar

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    Not sure we have all the info, but....
    If the good dish currently is only going to the Genie, then adding a splitter at the dish with the Genie connected to the red output [for power] and the other output going 100' "or so" to the HR21 shouldn't be a problem even with RG6.

    Updated info.
    Distance from Home (Genie) to good dish -near 100ft
    Distance from Home (Genie) to Shop (HR21) - over 200ft
    Distance from good dish to HR21 - approx 100ft

    So you are saying that it is possible to connect the the good dish to the HR21?
    As much detail as I can get would be appreciated - especially since different DTV service reps have different ideas of what can and cannot be done.
    Example - when I had the Genie installed I asked if it was feasible to run out to my shop from the house and the installer said no.
    I'm ultimately looking for a simple, single dish solution.
    Thanks
     
  11. jimmie57

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    How many receivers do you have in your house ?
    It could make a difference in the answers that you get.
     
  12. peds48

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    Yes, with a 2 way at the good dish to the HR21. done!
     
  13. sansabar

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    I have an HR44 and a mini in the house being served by the good dish.

    So this is what I am understanding and correct me if I'm wrong. I would place the splitter on the coax in-line at the dish using a short jump coax to reconnect one leg of the splitter to the LNB and the other leg to my HR21 100ft away.

    I've had DTV since 97 and have always done all of my own installs, upgrades, alignments, etc UNTIL this latest series of boxes/dishes came out. I understand what's going on but it seems much easier to mess up equipment now with a wrong move.

    Thanks for the tips. I am enrolled in the maintenance plan so DTV should take care of this - but like I said previously - last installer said it couldn't be done. 99% of them are on the ball but every once in a while . . .


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  14. veryoldschool

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    This means you already have a splitter at the house.
    It's still doable, but the splitter at the house shouldn't be an 8-way splitter.
     
  15. willardcpa

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    I'm only trying to educate myself with this question. But if he only had one box connected to the dish (before) did it need a power inserter? ie. maybe he doesn't have a power inserter in the mix yet.
     
  16. veryoldschool

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    The Genie is a SWM only receiver, so the LNB needed the power inserter.
     
  17. sansabar

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    LNB to the Genie
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    LNB to HR21
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    Genie Splitter
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  18. sansabar

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    Another option that I may have just occurred to me.
    The buried coax from the good dish to the Genie is the double coax.
    So, unless I'm mistaken, I should be able to attach the unused coax to the splitter under the house and in turn connect that unused coax to my HR21. Right?
    Would that be better or worse than adding another splitter at the dish.
    Both of those solutions require me to bury the same amount of coax.


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  19. veryoldschool

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    Dish - 2-way - 100' - 4-way - Genie is still within range, but using most of it. Should you need help, an amp can be added, or simply changing the 4-way to a 2-way.
    Going off the 4-way to the HR21 isn't within range.
     
  20. sansabar

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    Update.
    Had DTV come out to resolve my situation (making use of gthe maintenance plan).
    When I called to set it up the technician said I would not be able to share the dish and that another would need to be installed.
    I have learned from past experiences that the best person to discuss these things with is the actual installer.
    My installer showed up, I explained my situation and proposed oldshool's solution (the splitter at the good dish).
    He said no problem. Ran all new cable. Installed the splitter. Defragged my older DVR for quicker performance. Checked everything out and left me a happy camper.
    He was early, did a good job and worked with me to get the job done quickly.
    A big thumbs up to all of you A+ techs and installers out there.
     

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