Signal Loss on new install, run down of my problem

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  1. 1991SSP

    1991SSP New Member

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    I recently took two HR24 receivers to a 2nd home, the home previously has had cable installed in 2 rooms, cable ran to the outside, I installed a 2 way SWM splitter, new cable to the slimline dish from the splitter to a 4K reverse band LNB and required power supply, lined up the dish with a signal meter, both boxes say signal loss, the boxes auto detected the lnb, and at the dish the line has 20.5 volts, i have checked every connection and even installed new connectors at the end of each line, any suggestions?
     
  2. WestDC

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    Are you sure your on the right SAT Directv 101?
     
  3. 1991SSP

    1991SSP New Member

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    yes, the meter i used had 101 in the options...

    is it possible for a splitter to allow voltage to the dish but not return any signal to the receiver?
     
  4. WestDC

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    The PI needs to be connected to SWM port 1 -port-2 goes to one IRD --THE SAT ATT Connects to top --you can then connect another receiver to the PI port Labled IRD.
     
  5. HoTat2

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    You say the home was previously wired for cable TV, and you're now running satellite signals over it?

    Could there be any like 5-1000 MHz CATV splitters in the cabling somewhere in the home, even (hopefully not) behind a wall?

    As those don't have sufficient bandwidth for satellite and should be DIRECTV approved DC-2150 or 2-2150 MHz.

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  6. P Smith

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    Looks like he have PI-21 VDC connected correctly ...
     
  7. 1991SSP

    1991SSP New Member

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    I have double and triple checked everything, the cable that goes to the room is all exposed to the weather and ran along the outer wall, I am tempted just to replace those two pieces of cable as well.


    As a quick test can I simply run a piece of new cable straight from the dish to the PI and see if it will work that way and completely bypass the splitter?
     
  8. 1991SSP

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    I am pretty sure there are not any other splitters but I will double check
     
  9. HoTat2

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    Yes ....

    In particular I'd be interested in what splits the CATV cable to feed the two rooms ....

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  10. inkahauts

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    When it gets difficult to find the issue the best thing to do is limit the possibilities. I’d temporarily do what you are saying only take it further. Use a new piece of coax from the dish to the pi. Then run a new piece from the pi to one box and get it working right. That would eliminate the coax being the issue and you can make sure it’s not in alignment. I’m guessing it’s an alignment issue though to be honest. If you are off just right while the meter may be saying you have signal off 101 it could be signal from a different sat. But only one way to track it down.

    If it isn’t the alignment, then once you have signal on the temporary cables move the system back to the existing lines one cable at a time till you find the culprit.
     
  11. 1991SSP

    1991SSP New Member

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    thanks, thats exactly what I am going to do, if no signal still exists I am going to look into the dish adjustments
     
  12. litzdog911

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    What sort of "meter"?
     
  13. 1991SSP

    1991SSP New Member

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    borrowed a bird dog from a friend who did installs years ago
     
  14. jimmie57

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    Take the meter out of the setup and use the meter on the TV screen. Most dishes that are misaligned are lined up on the 110 or 119 sats ( way too far to the west ).
    Try moving the dish, side to side, by about 10° to the east.
    You just need a helper to tell you if the signal on the 101 is getting higher or lower.
     
  15. P Smith

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    indeed!
     
  16. 1991SSP

    1991SSP New Member

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    ok, thanks, i'm gonna try it again today
     
  17. texasbrit

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    Is it definitely an SWM dish (just one cable to the house)?
     
  18. HoTat2

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    Also remember that when you're using the receiver's signal level indicator screens. After every dish adjustment, give the receiver 2-3 seconds to compute and then display the change.

    As the process is not instantaneous from dish movement to the indicator display change from the movement ...

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  19. 1991SSP

    1991SSP New Member

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    thanks, i was not aware of the delay
     
  20. HoTat2

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    Yes ...

    Such a delay doesn't apply to an installation meter connected at the dish of course. But only to the receiver's level indicators ...

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