Signing up for DirecTV a wise move?

Discussion in 'DIRECTV General Discussion' started by Mike1096, Mar 17, 2021.

  1. Mike1096

    Mike1096 Member

    Jan 20, 2018
    Lucky you. I’ve heard horror stories. No way I’m letting them out 10 holes in my roof. To each his own.

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  2. MysteryMan

    MysteryMan Well-Known Member DBSTalk Club

    May 17, 2010
    My house also has a chimney, bathroom and kitchen vents going through the roof. They don't leak either. Guess that makes me real lucky.
  3. Mike1096

    Mike1096 Member

    Jan 20, 2018
    Guess so.

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  4. Davenlr

    Davenlr Geek til I die

    Sep 16, 2006
    They mounted my next door neighbors DirecTv dish on his patio on a sled. I think I would have dug the hole for him, then said put it here. I really don't think they want to install DirecTv anymore.
  5. Mike1096

    Mike1096 Member

    Jan 20, 2018
    Yeah. It was weird. He would’ve mounted it to side of my garage which is brick but I really don’t want the holes. Especially when I have a dish sitting on my chimney.

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  6. bills976

    bills976 Godfather/Supporter

    Jun 30, 2002
    The big difference there is that those were installed when your roof was installed, and the work was done by a roofer who does this for a living.

    If properly installed, a dish on a roof should be fine, but you won't be able to remove the foot without risking a leak, and you're also trusting your installer not to screw it up. ATT installers are likely not roofers, so personally I would go with a pole mount.
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  7. krel

    krel New Member

    Mar 20, 2013
    where i'm at there's 30 dishes up on the roof. none of us had issues with leaks. and someone has a big ugily ass hugesnet dish to and no issues with leaks
  8. jimmie57

    jimmie57 Hall Of Fame

    Jun 26, 2010
    Texas City, TX
    They are mandated not to get off their ladders.
    Because of that and a possible leak they usually mount them on the eve of the roof.
    They have a custom made rubberized sealing gasket that goes between the foot and the roof shingles. I have had 5 dishes mounted on my roof in the last 24 years and did not have a leak.
    They even have special under eave mounts. Did you ask about those ?
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  9. Michael H..

    Michael H.. Member

    May 31, 2007

    The sheet metal rectangular box with the holes that the dish is mounted to is a "SLEARO-02" dish mount.
    It comes in two pieces, the rectangular box and the bolted-on structure below it that the dish mast mounting plate is bolted to.
    The part that is attached to the house is the rectangular box, which I offset with a pair of (my design) 1.25" x 1.25" square tubes in order for the (my design) lower 1.25" x 1.25" square tubes to clear the bottom of the fascia.
    The rectangular box is mounted with four 5/16" x 6" lag bolts, 2 each screwed into the bottom edge of two rafters.
    The rafters were pre-drilled half-way into the 11.5" depth of the 2" x 12" rafters, and the 6" long lag bolts screwed in to a depth of 4.625" into the rafters securing the rectangular box.
    At approximately 100# per inch thread engagement pull out load for the lag bolts, the 4 lag bolt attachment sustains approximately 1850# pull out load.
    There is no better attachment with respect to (boundary condition) attachment structural strength and stiffness.
    I have mounted every dish myself since '94 and have never had alignment signal degradation necessitating re-alignment after installation.
    The lower 1.25" x 1.25" square tubes are bolted to the rectangular box, not to the house.
    The 4 lag bolts securing the rectangular box are the only attachments to the house itself, the other structures or DBS supports or (Televes DiNova) OTA antenna supports are bolted to the rectangular box or to the lower 1.25" x 1.25" square tubes.
    In addition to the superior structural aspects, the main advantage with this installation is the house is not compromised for leaks, even if the dish and mount are later removed.
    If a dish is mounted to the roof, preferably over the eaves and not over the living area, or if mounted to the wall, silicone will be applied around the hole as a sealant, but over time even if the silicone doesn't break down, the bond between the silicone and the house will, and water will flow with gravity, down through the roof or down and into the wall, resulting in rot and mold.
    With the SLEARO-02 upward mounting, water will run along the bottom of the rafter, but will not turn and flow upward along the lag bolts into the rafter, and even if it could the lag bolts are threaded into a blind hole, there is no path for the water to enter the house.
    I applied silicone around the holes to limit the water from wicking up into and penetrating laterally into the wood of the rafters as a precaution, though this is really not likely be a problem.
    If you ever moved, it would be a simple task to dismount and plug the 4 holes at the bottom of the rafters, and take the mount with you.

    The SLEARO-02 was manufactured by a company in Georgia (US, not USSR) under license to DirecTV originally, and was available through a few DTV installers, but has been out of production for awhile (decade?) and those in existence are only available out of inventory surplus at a few satellite equipment distributors, buried under a pile of dust.

    As recently as beginning of Covid-19 shutdown, someone walking his dog, stopped, looked at the dish installation and commented, "Transformers fan huh, what does that thing turn into?".
    I explained why I had one, he said that they had recently moved in and were ordering DTV and would ask the installer for the same mount.
    When I told him to expect that they wouldn't know what he was talking about, he asked for permission to take a picture, to send them.
    Turned out they knew what they were, actually had one, and told him that about once a year someone asks, and they comply.


    Oh, I forgot.
    On the front of the connector plate (obscured by the coax drip loop) I mounted a 90° bend plumbing pipe with the opening facing downward, so that the dual coax cable enters up from the bottom and into the wall, and in the ~3" length of pipe around the cable I injected silicone sealant and filled the pipe... same thing water has to flow up to penetrate into the wall.
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