Sinclair Channels Threaten to Leave DISH

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  1. Aug 10, 2021 #21 of 190
    glrush

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    And, of course, when DirecTV went through this same exercise with $inclair several years ago, $inclair told DirecTV customers to sign up for Dish.

    These people really are the worst.
     
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  2. Aug 10, 2021 #22 of 190
    Davenlr

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    My MIL has DISH and watches a local Sinclair station. She saw the scroll. I think she has a hopper. Is there a way to hook an OTA antenna to it, or do I need to install the antenna and hook it to her TV and have her switch inputs?
     
  3. Aug 10, 2021 #23 of 190
    NashGuy

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    If you get the OTA adapter for the Hopper, you can connect the antenna to that and integrate the OTA channels right into the DVR.

    https://my.dish.com/support/products/receivers/hopper/how-to/receiver-to-ota

    You can find them online for sale around $50 but I'd contact DISH's help line on your MIL's behalf and ask them if they'll send her one for free, or at a reduced cost, since she'll be affected by the Sinclair blackout.
     
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  4. Aug 10, 2021 #24 of 190
    scooper

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    DIsh might even offer her an OTA antenna setup since she is impacted by this. Can't hurt to ask....
     
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  5. Aug 11, 2021 #25 of 190
    Jim5506

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    I have the AirTV dual tuner OTA adapter on my Hopper 3.

    It is the same internally as the one Dish sells but it is only $30 and has a white plastic case instead of the black one Dish uses.

    OTA channels appear in the guide just like the satellite channels do, all you have to do is connect the appropriate antenna to the USB OTA tuner and scan for locals.
     
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  6. Aug 11, 2021 #26 of 190
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    I do have the OTA tuner in the 211k, but the guide on several of the channels show the wrong guide. I had the Fire Cube, so I bought the recast that does give me the correct guide for 2 weeks. It also has the built in 500GB HDD. The Recast I have is dual tuner. I could have purchased the 4 tuner, but there isn't that much OTA I am interested in that would require anymore than the dual tuner unit. We have 27 OTA offerings here. If a person does have free OTA, we have options.
    What really gets me that all of these OTA stations offer their channel(s) for free. So why are they demanding so much to offer it on satellite or cable? I know, because the broadcasters can get it. If the pricing keeps going up, then no service will be offering locals any longer. I was hoping with these disputes, either station(s) would remain on Dish during the dispute or we would get an out of market network to cover the loss. It was better in some ways when we only had East/West locals.
     
  7. Aug 11, 2021 #27 of 190
    crodrules

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    Funny enough, Dish had already removed the RSN's before then. So at the time, Sinclair was actually recommending that their viewers (on DirecTV) switch to a provider (Dish) that does not carry their RSN's, just to get their locals. Seems to me that Sinclair should be satisfied just to maintain the status quo on Dish now, in that case. :)
     
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  8. Aug 11, 2021 #28 of 190
    crodrules

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    This is the adapter you want: Products | AirTV
    (Scroll down and you will see it in the middle of the bottom row of products.)

    That is the one I use with my Hopper 3, and it works great! AirTV ships using UPS, so you should receive it within a couple days after ordering it.

    Your odds of getting Dish to send the OTA adapter for free improve greatly after the channels actually get dropped. Of course, that means that you have to go without the channels in your DVR for a little while, until the adapter is delivered. If you want to be prepared before the channels get removed, get the $29.99 adapter from AirTV now.
     
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    Davenlr

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    I've seen posts before saying that DBS and OTA signals can be joined via a diplexer to run over the same coax, then split back out at the end via another diplexer for connection to their respective devices.

    https://www.amazon.com/Heavy-Diplexer-Splitters-Satellite-Approved/dp/B00JJ10V8C/

    Hopefully someone else on here who's actually done it can confirm or provide additional details if necessary.
     
  11. Aug 11, 2021 #31 of 190
    scooper

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    Not in the case of a Hopper - no diplexors allowed. I've asked this one from Tech Support and basically - there is no frequency space available. OTA on separate cable from Dish. I wanted to do this to a Super Joey and was told no.
     
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  12. Aug 11, 2021 #32 of 190
    NYDutch

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    The identical adapter in white from AirTV at the link Crod posted would have saved you some money.
     
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  13. Aug 11, 2021 #33 of 190
    Davenlr

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    Perhaps, but with Amazon I get it tomorrow with free shipping and 5% cash back
     
  14. Aug 11, 2021 #34 of 190
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    Ok, if that saved you at least $15. As I recall, my AirTV adapter arrived in 2-3 days.
     
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  15. Aug 11, 2021 #35 of 190
    James Long

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    DISH made the EPG adjustments today ... OTA channels are now getting separate EPG from the via satellite channels. That will allow OTA EPG to continue once the via satellite channels are taken down.
     
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  16. Aug 11, 2021 #36 of 190
    harsh

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    They've likely done this in the hopes that the public doesn't seek help from their Congressional representatives. This is a broad blackout that probably doesn't matter much now but will if it lasts into the fall.
     
  17. Aug 11, 2021 #37 of 190
    harsh

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    A second run is going to be a lot less confusing in the long run. Diplexing is possible if there are no Joeys involved but it may cause unforeseen heartburn down the road.
     
  18. Aug 11, 2021 #38 of 190
    Davenlr

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    Im just going to run a new line. Ive got 1000' roll to use up, might as well use it. Found out I can actually walk under the house through a door, and run the coax across the floor (ceiling) and up through a hole, so it will be a walk in the park in the dark.

    Ill just wire tie the new coax to the dish coax. Going to mount the mini-yagi under the dish on the same pipe.
     
  19. Aug 11, 2021 #39 of 190
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    Once you get OTA working, you can drop locals and $inclair and all of the other large station owners don’t get your money. I can’t stand Sinclair for their slanted news and sometimes lies. I’ve been tempted to switch my Fox DVR recordings from the Baltimore Sinclair owned Fox station to the Fox owned station in DC.
     
  20. Aug 11, 2021 #40 of 190
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    I remember hearing that Dish loses money on locals. If that’s true, why don’t they just make the OTA modules built into their receivers, encourage their customers to get OTA (while plugging their installation service) and let people know they can save on their monthly bill by dropping OTA? It would be a win for the customers, who don’t have to pay for the locals, a win for Dish that doesn’t lose as much money on locals, a boost to Dish’s antenna installation service and fewer of their customers will be affected if a channel goes dark.
     

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