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Sinclair may pull locals from Dish on 8/16

Discussion in 'General DISH™ Discussion' started by RAD, Aug 13, 2012.

  1. Aug 14, 2012 #61 of 147

    RAD Well-Known Member

    Aug 5, 2002
    Could have got the cable systems basic service which included the locals and a couple public interest channels, my system had them for about $10/month.
  2. Aug 14, 2012 #62 of 147
    James Long

    James Long Ready for Uplink! Staff Member Super Moderator DBSTalk Club

    Apr 17, 2003
    Viacom, Fox ... there have been bigger issues than Sinclair. The people in these markets will be impacted ... but Sinclair is NOT "the one station group DISH can't lose" - not by a long shot.

    Three years ago there was a quick agreement ... if this year's negotiations lead to an outage so be it. DISH can't just cave in to the demands of local broadcasters --- sometimes that means a few days (or a month) without a station group. It will get worked out.
  3. Aug 14, 2012 #63 of 147

    dpeters11 Hall Of Fame

    May 30, 2007
    Looking at the list, this will really hurt in a city like Columbus where they'll lose two major networks. How it can be that one company can control two networks in the same area is beyond me. I'm glad that the Sinclair purchase of Cincinnati's WKRC hasn't closed yet.
  4. Aug 14, 2012 #64 of 147

    Gloria_Chavez Godfather

    Aug 11, 2008
    Bingo, and a point rarely made.

    The government should mandate that all broadcast stations must install enough repeaters to ensure that the same household that was able to receive an analog signal can receive a digital one.
  5. Aug 14, 2012 #65 of 147

    SayWhat? Know Nothing

    Jun 6, 2009

    That's another area the Feds need to crack down on. No way should it ever have been allowed, and these disputes are a perfect reason to force divestiture.
  6. Aug 14, 2012 #66 of 147

    SayWhat? Know Nothing

    Jun 6, 2009
    It might. Many of the affected networks run their shows on-line and most of the local stations run at least their local news and weather on-line.
  7. Aug 14, 2012 #67 of 147
    James Long

    James Long Ready for Uplink! Staff Member Super Moderator DBSTalk Club

    Apr 17, 2003
    If you read the government's coverage maps they believe they HAVE replicated the analog signal coverage with a digital signal. Some of the coverage maps in my area show increased coverage (additional population served).

    I have not heard much about distributed transmitters in the past couple of years. The current push seems to be taking away broadcast spectrum and pushing stations to SD or paired HD channels while continuing to protect the rights to the programs broadcasters air.
  8. Aug 15, 2012 #68 of 147

    inkahauts Well-Known Member

    Nov 13, 2006
    Time Warner has had some brutal fights here in los angeles in the past, so I wouldn't say they give in that easy...
  9. Aug 15, 2012 #69 of 147

    inkahauts Well-Known Member

    Nov 13, 2006
    That will never happen. Zero chance. The only thing congress might take on is re transmission fees of publicly available stations that are ota and therefore the stations are using bandwidth that was literally given to them by the people. They will never start mandating pricing or packaging for cable stations and providers.

    I say good for Dish. I don't think there is any one or two channels, heck, I'd say any provider can loose 10% of their channels and not lose to much if need be, especially in the shorter run. These things hurt the channels far more than the providers these days unless these things go on for a very extended time IMHO. I am firmly on the provider side on every dispute, and I hope Dish holds out till they get what they are after, just like Directv did with Viacom and Tribune.

    AMC is an excellent example of Dish holding their ground, so I suspect they will continue to do so with this dispute.
  10. Aug 15, 2012 #70 of 147

    sregener Godfather

    Apr 17, 2012
    Sinclair's name was mud in my book during the whole 8VSB vs COFDM debate. Nothing they do surprises me anymore.
  11. Aug 15, 2012 #71 of 147

    dakeeney Legend

    Aug 29, 2004
    I'm with Dish. I hate to see networks go dark but I also don't like to have a big Iprice hike. This may get ugly but I hope Dish holds out for a fair deal. I guess we'll just sing "the party's over" at:lol: midnight tonight.
  12. Aug 15, 2012 #72 of 147

    ATARI Hall Of Fame

    May 10, 2007
  13. Aug 15, 2012 #73 of 147

    fudpucker Godfather

    Jul 23, 2007
    NW Iowa
    In the situation here, the banners were up on the Fox and CBS channels saying "Dish will be dropping this station at midnight tonight!" up until midnight the night before the deadline. I woke up the next morning expecting the channels to be dark, and was relieved to see them still up.

    That said, quite a few people here switched to DirectTV during the dispute. You could see their install trucks in every neighborhood, and chatting with the installer, he said all of their installs those weeks were Dish people not wanting to lose half their networks. I tried to tell some people at work to wait until the deadline hit but they said they didn't want to have to go without the networks while waiting for an appointment to install. Also, as people called DirectTV to check D* would give them some really attractive deals.

    If I had to bet I'd bet there won't be a blackout, but when it happened here the newspaper did some polling (not owned by the same people!) and people faulted Dish about 9-1 so I think for the average viewer, Dish loses on these.
  14. Aug 15, 2012 #74 of 147

    cpufixer New Member

    Aug 15, 2012
    This is why I am a DISH customer. They stand up to these broadcasters. Pull the plug. It's summer time and no one is watching anyway.
  15. Aug 15, 2012 #75 of 147

    runner861 Icon

    Mar 20, 2010
    Can you publish a link to the coverage maps?
  16. Aug 15, 2012 #76 of 147
    Ira Lacher

    Ira Lacher Icon

    Apr 24, 2002
    "Let the government ..."

    "Congress should ..."

    Where are all the small-government or no-government advocates now?

  17. Aug 15, 2012 #77 of 147

    HollywoodTX New Member

    Mar 29, 2012
    So what happen to those of us that got the hopper for the PT anytime we loose a whole recording???? With that slot for the 4th PT NOW what poof it is useless??? My fox station carries the 9pm news but I love the shows (thinking of Fringe) hope they come to an agreement.
  18. Aug 15, 2012 #78 of 147

    RasputinAXP Kwisatz Haderach of Cordcuttery

    Jan 23, 2008
    I don't know what you just said. I think you're asking what happens to PTAT. The answer is nothing. It just doesn't record that channel.
  19. Aug 15, 2012 #79 of 147

    ehilbert1 Godfather

    Jan 22, 2007
    Exactly and we would also lose our CW station. So there is 3 local channels gone. I was going to make the jump to Dish even without AMC and get the Hopper. I can't do it now that we will probably lose 3 local stations too. No OTA for Hopper. My wife and I DVR a lot of stuff because of our work schedules so just getting an antenna won't help.
  20. Aug 15, 2012 #80 of 147

    DoyleS Icon

    Oct 21, 2002
    El Dorado...
    With AMC, Dish would have paid an increase for every subscriber since it is in the lower packages. With Sinclair, we are only talking about 45 markets but there is no mechanism for Dish to charge that increase just to those 45 markets so it just would get absorbed as an overall cost increase leaving Dish with the choice of raising prices on everyone to maintain their margin or just accepting the slightly lower margin.

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