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Sirius XM on Directv

Discussion in 'DIRECTV Programming' started by wesv, Aug 2, 2008.

  1. Tom Servo

    Tom Servo Icon

    Mar 7, 2007
    At least on DirecTV the channels actually sound good. Depending on how much worse the addition of 11 or so new channels makes the SQ on XM go, I may cancel and just record feeds off DirecTV for listening in the car.

    I've been contemplating that one of the cost cutting measures will be the Sirius guys simply replacing channels on XM with the Sirius counterpart (and vice versa). That was they could get "11 Sirius channels" without actually using more bandwidth. They'll just delete 11 XM channels to do it. :p

    But who knows what really will happen. :shrug:
  2. Ken S

    Ken S RIP

    Feb 12, 2007
    You do realize that they have the capability to turn individual channels off and on with their existing radios? If you have a Sirius radio and have not specifically requested Playboy Radio it is turned off. Once you approve they turn it on. XM also had a premium tier (Opie & Anthony was an extra charge) for awhile so those radios also have the capability.
    I don't think there is an ala carte radio coming out...it is just going to take them a few months before they roll out the ala carte programs. I'm sure they have some back-end work to do first.
    The new radios will be the dual-band.
  3. SamC

    SamC Hall Of Fame

    Jan 20, 2003
    Just to recap:

    - On the programming side, SXM is free to combine the basic programming, and it would obviously be smart to do so. The "60s Rock" channel on both can be the same production, and even on the same channel number, etc. Just as ESPN is the same production on DirecTV, DISH, and your local cable co.

    - But, both systems are 100% incompatable, and thus both systems will duplicate each other, with no bandwidth savings.

    - Both systems, from day one, have had "al la carte" capabilities. Its just that the Market has rejected the offerings (XM used to have Playboy al la carte, for example). SXM can, if the Market will accept it, offer XM and SSR a "premium" package of "missing" channels from the other system, for a price.

    - A "new receiver" is little more than two radios in one box and a computer chip to make it appear otherwise.

    - But, again, unless they want to give or sell a new receiver to EVERY SINGLE CUSTOMER they have, there is no bandwidth savings nor any additional channel capacity gain, because the basic package has to be duplicated on both systems.

    This merger was 100% about what the combined company pays talent and what you the customer pay the combined company in a monopoly environemnt, not about increasing customer service in any way.
  4. tonyd79

    tonyd79 Hall Of Fame

    Jul 24, 2006
    Columbia, MD
    Yes, I know they can do that. However, you had better disagree with the filings with the FCC that says that a la carte radios are coming out. And all the statements that say that the current radios will not be supported by a la carte.

    They can do it technially but it is probably too difficult to manage with the current radios or some other reason.

    I am not making this stuff up. It is actually in the press releases and FCC merger proposal documents.

    A lot of that is available on xmfan.com and other sources.
  5. Ken S

    Ken S RIP

    Feb 12, 2007
    They have three months to offer the new packages...including some ala carte choices. But I don't think that's going to be full ala carte choices between both services. It can't be without dual band because they don't have the bandwidth on either side. They can't require consumers to purchase new radios for the first wave of new packages and ala carte programming as that would eliminate that programming choice from ALL of their existing customers.

    They will have to support both services for at least ten years because of the installed base of radios in cars.

    They have nine months (down from a year) to release dual band radios (I think we'll see them a bit sooner...but we'll see). I think that's also when we'll see more programming choices

    They have to let any company that wants to manufacture their radios and not put any limitation on other receivers (AM, FM, HD) being included in those radios.

    There are a few other stipulations like the price freeze and bandwidth giveaway but they don't apply to this discussion.

    I don't think you're making this stuff up at all...I think there has been a lot of confusion. I may be wrong too...I got this information from one of their investor relations folks.

    Anyway, we'll all just watch and see...things will probably only change about 25 times in the next year or so. :)
  6. Drew2k

    Drew2k New Member

    Aug 16, 2006
    This conversation has veered way off topic discussing XM/Sirius hardware - how does that affect availability of XM/Sirius on DIRECTV? :confused:
  7. ActiveHDdave

    ActiveHDdave Godfather

    Sep 15, 2007
    I do like them. I have my surround receiver hooked up to receive them plus I wired 2 speakers upstairs so the house is basically wired for sound. After I find what I want to listen too I just turn the tv off.
  8. krock918316

    krock918316 Hall Of Fame

    Mar 5, 2007
    LOL!! :lol:
  9. QuickDrop

    QuickDrop Hall Of Fame

    Jul 20, 2007
    I sometimes listen to them too (and subscribe to XM), so the jibe could also easily apply to me--though I tend to rely on an iPod hooked up to a sound system for my "overly compressed" house jukebox. My point, without the sarcasm, was that I don't believe we lose anything as DirecTV subscribers by having the music channels and some people gain something.
  10. Ken S

    Ken S RIP

    Feb 12, 2007
    Sorry Mr. Thread Police,

    But Tonyd is right...this thread is on topic because DirecTV is going to have to figure out what kind of receiver to buy in order to broadcast the potential new channels. We're just trying to help them out. :)

    Do you think they'll go with a Stilleto and make one of their techs stand outside all day to get better reception?
  11. Tom Robertson

    Tom Robertson Lifetime Achiever DBSTalk Club

    Nov 15, 2005
    Since DIRECTV didn't receive the signals via a normal receiver in the first place, I'm thinking DIRECTV will likely stick to the fibre they used all along.

    So don't be callin' names when someone correctly suggests :backtotop :)

  12. psunate77

    psunate77 Godfather

    Aug 18, 2007
    Will Soccer and NFL now be available on XM? If not I may just dump it, I used it for the first month, but haven't hardly the last 4.
  13. Jeremy W

    Jeremy W Hall Of Fame

    Jun 19, 2006
    The short answer is no. The long answer is, when the new receivers come out that are capable of receiving both services, you will be able to receiver soccer and NFL alongside the XM channels.
  14. SamC

    SamC Hall Of Fame

    Jan 20, 2003

    Short term answer:

    DirecTV has a contract with XM and DISH with SSR, which all parties will have to honor for the length thereof. I know of no public information on how long these deals are for.

    Long term answer:

    It depends on how these deals were structured. My guess (pure guess) is that both TV DBS companies got their respective radio DBS services at a substantial discount or perhaps were even paid to carry them, as a form of advertizing. In the next go-round is it to SXM's advantage to have such deals, or will they demand full value, or more than full value from one to provide it with an exclusive?

    Who knows.

    Of course, similar services such as Music Choice still exist for the TV DBS companies to pick up.
  15. Ken S

    Ken S RIP

    Feb 12, 2007

    I know they didn't use a regular receiver it was a joke.

    I apologize Sheriff. I understand the law must be upheld and it is the duty of every reader here to make a citizen's arrest if they see that law being broken.
  16. kevinwmsn

    kevinwmsn Hall Of Fame

    Aug 19, 2006
    I hope they keep some form of music channels(XM/Sirius or Music Choice). I like putting it on the music channels when I have company over playing poker.
  17. psunate77

    psunate77 Godfather

    Aug 18, 2007
    If I am not getting Soccer or NFL, I may consider canceling. My usage has dropped off greatly over the last 3 months. I have listened more in the last week, but not enough.
  18. Steve Mehs

    Steve Mehs Hall Of Fame

    Mar 21, 2002
    You can bet there will be some type of music service It provides two very important benefits. 1) Increases channel count 2) Many businesses use it as background noise.
  19. ThomasM

    ThomasM RF Engineer

    Jul 20, 2007
    Milwaukee, WI
    I STILL miss Music Choice on DirecTV. No obnoxious "disc jockeys". Continuous music of your choice. No interruptions.

    Remember when they had 12 channels with video showing a picture of the album containing the song being played and you could actually ORDER it from your remote?

    XM and/or Sirius on DirecTV is a loser. So is DirecTV's "interactive". WINK was much better. Remember WINK?

    Oh, well, I liked gasoline at $0.25/gallon too. :D
  20. ejjames

    ejjames Icon

    Oct 2, 2006
    i simply miss it showing what year a song was released. seems like it would be so simple to add.


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