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  1. gjrhine

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    Plus news, weather, sports, traffic, on and on. There are many reasons for 31.45 million (with a "m") subscribers. If you can not find something to like it's a YOU problem. If it "sounds like it is in a tube underwater"
    it's a YOU problem. Period.
     
  2. Laxguy

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    gjrhine:

    In order to have any credibility in this thread you should say what the bitrates are, and second, disclose what your relationship with the company is.
     
  3. gjrhine

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    What a joke if you think I need or want any credibility from you.

    Just putting out the truth for those who choose to benefit from it.
     
  4. inkahauts

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    Not sure why you think that. I've know for a fact that while Sirius and Xmas have always claimed sound quality of cd quality it has never been truly that. And it's never actually claimed that on all channels either. I sold the equipment and service years ago, and their quality has not increased. Some radios manipulate the signal to sound less bit starved but it's still bit starved. Generally this was done to deal with MP3 sound sources and satellite benefited from it. This argument is similar to people who think MP3 sounds like a cd. It doesn't and it isn't possible for it to if all things are equal.

    I had a couple cal tech kids come into my store and tell me MP3 is every bit as good as cd once. I proved them wrong and they where shocked. And forever realized there is a difference and there's real reason behind it that's better than the arguments they had against it.

    With that said I can easily see why some people subscribe to it.

    I also know they don't have 31 million paying people. A lot of those are are new car subs who haven't paid a dime. Also of any company out there this one probably gets less than retail price more than any other. People keep it because at a low price it's a good deal. Not for it's sound quality. But the material at that price. I always loved the traffic reports but it's still not worth the price for me personally.

    But don't call the sound quality a you problem. It's just a reality. How much a person cares is a different story. It's better than old cassette tapes; it's all relative. And I'm sure plenty of people don't have good enough hearing to tell. But I haven't met any of those people in person yet myself.
     
  5. trh

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    Well here's the truth: I had XM since the first year it came out.

    CD Quality?? It only sounds the same as a CD when I am driving down the road at 60 mph with the top down.
     
  6. Bradman

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    Dropouts, maybe, I used the factory radio in a car. The bitrate of the music,though is not in dispute. It is far below redbook CD and generally runs from 32-64kbps. If you think the earbuds that came with your phone sound good, then rock on, full stop.
     
  7. gjrhine

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    "close to CD quality" Some words ("close to") you chose not to quote (and I stand by) but that does not fit your narrative does it?
     
  8. trh

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    I hate to burst you bubble, but I didn't leave out any words to fit my narrative. You obviously didn't read my first post (#39), where I stated that: "Most of the channels have sound quality way below CD quality."
     
  9. Laxguy

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    What bitrate does Sirius use for music, for talk?
     
  10. Laxguy

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    This would be the first I've heard anyone but an employee say that it was even marginally close to CD quality. Can you provide any facts??
     
  11. gjrhine

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    Quite possible. I have neither the time nor inclination for most of the noise here.

    Learn about VBR and constantly improving compression algorithms to understand why close to CD quality. I am not about to do anybody's research for them but there are your clues.
     
  12. Laxguy

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    DATA!
    Sirius employee?
     
  13. inkahauts

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    I know about that stuff. Doesn't change anything. Sat radio is nowhere near cd quality. Heck cds alone have a lot of different quality levels themselves. And I've never heard one as bad as sat radio. Not even close.

    Have you ever listened to a cd of a song that you just heard on sat radio from the exact same radio system? I have. And if you don't hear a difference I'm betting it's more the radio manipulating both signals to sound similar than anything else.
     
  14. billsharpe

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    I mainly listen to 40's Junction on my car stereo. These were originally 78-rpm recordings and are not in stereo. They sound pretty good to me, certainly better than my original 78's did.
     
  15. Laxguy

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    It is cool that much of the music heard in the 40's to 60's sounds better today, as equipment has become within reach of everyone. No longer need a $5,000 turntable and a $40,000 amp, preamp and speakers of similar price.
     
  16. Laxguy

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    Most of us understand VBR as well as a myriad of compression schemes. Do you have data to back up your assertions?
     
  17. trh

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    Research??? I only need to listen to the music with my ears to know the quality level is way below that of a CD.

    How far? What measurements? Again, it doesn't matter. But it is bad enough that I will only listen to my Sat radio in the car. Never on my home system (unless it is a sporting event that I can't or don't want to watch on TV).
     
  18. Laxguy

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    trh- Was asking only for the fellow asserting near CD quality for facts, data, something concrete. Nada. I suspect he's employed by Sirius. But he can't be bothered to produce anything substantive, apparently.
     
  19. trh

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    Either someone with a financial interest in the company or someone who hasn't listened to the service.
     
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