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Sixto Report-D11 Status: In Operation July 31, 2008

Discussion in 'DIRECTV General Discussion' started by Earl Bonovich, Mar 19, 2008.

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  1. Mar 26, 2008 #741 of 6958
    doctor j

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    java version"1.6.0_05"

    search *.jar results in many pages of jar files but no ephemeris .jar

    A bit compressed but this is what standalone download gets:
     
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    couldn't read the attachment ... so you can't find the ephemeris.jar file after the download? that's the file you need to run.
     
  4. Mar 26, 2008 #744 of 6958
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    That's my point.
    It does not
    It downloads : ephemeris.zip

    Extract and you get a folder "ephemeris"
    do i need to rename it" " .jar
    Thanks for the help by the way

    Doctor j
    no jar file in zip download
     
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    Sure am glad I am not the only one that couldn't figure it out.. Download only gives me a zip file..
     
  9. Mar 26, 2008 #749 of 6958
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    Rename zip file
    ephemeris.zip to ephemeris.jar
    accept warning
    double click ephemeris.jar now with new java icon and applet opens.

    Thanks for the help.
    Not clear at all why it downloads as .zip or any directions as to what to do with downloadable file.
    "a"command works but all very slow.
    Now to rename my TLE's to get multiple paths

    Thanks again

    Doctor j
     
  10. Mar 26, 2008 #750 of 6958
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    Ok I need to here from the experts on this. One of our DTV big wigs had a meeting today with our company and said be prepared for locals (Bangor, Maine market 152) to come anytime now and definatly before April 16th. They will be SD in MPEG4 and will come from the 99 satellite. Now this has been delayed since last fall because the spotbeam issue on the D10 screwed us and they said you will have to wait for next bird. Now there can be up to 3 different situations.
    1: DTV will actually get this D11 going fairly quickly and the guy was off on his timing.
    2: We will get locals from the Spaceway 99 instead and for some reason we was delayed for months.
    3: The guy is crazy and we wont have locals until at least May.

    I will say this, he was very sure and we can actually start advertising and stuff and he said to gear up now they could be turned on anytime now. He also went on to say that we will be one of the first MPEG4 locals which i guess i dont understand because isnt there lots of MPEG4 locals out there? maybe he meant SD- MPEG4 locals? maybe he meant one of the first from the D11?

    Now if you guys answer that you think they will come from the Spaceway 99, my question would be do they have more room on the spaceway and can they spotbeam to maine?

    I wasnt in the meeting or i would have asked way more questions so this is all I got for now.

    Mike
     
  11. Mar 26, 2008 #751 of 6958
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    all I can tell you is it won't be 1.

    Chances are its one of the following:

    a) they got spaceway 2 working well enough
    b) they're going to really come down from another satellite, either spaceway 1 or directv 10 (maybe temporarily on a CONUS beam in anticipation of D11 coming on line)
     
  12. Mar 26, 2008 #752 of 6958
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    If I were to have an intelligent guess (but without any hard data yet), I'd say DIRECTV has been moving LILs around from Spaceways to D10 spotbeams (actually that part is known true) so now with that effort done, you might be getting your SD LILs from 99° Spaceway 2. (and be prepared for more rearranging after D11 is operational.) :)

    As for being the first, I don't think you are. I thought I'd seen a couple others ahead of you. But I could be wrong... :)

    Cheers,
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    looks like there is an issue with the link or file on the site. When you click on the link it downloads the .zip source file and not the .jar file.
     
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    3 TLE's for Directv 11 today!?
    Anyone catch #8
    Please post.
    Any source for sequential TLE's if you miss one.
    I'm registered with space-track but can't locate past or even recent past elements.:(
    Thank you

    Doctor j
     
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    You don't have to rename the TLEs with the ephemeris app. It will load multiple TLEs with duplicate IDs.
     
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    Code:
    D11_1
    1 32729U 08013A   08079.72950595 -.00000595  00000-0  00000+0 0    14
    2 32729 000.0442 041.9240 7301134 137.3253 154.1349 02.25930713    07
    D11_2
    1 32729U 08013A   08080.20694505  .00001782  00000-0  10776-2 0    28
    2 32729 000.0607 004.5242 7312996 175.2731 179.9998 02.22931077    03
    D11_3
    1 32729U 08013A   08080.57956083  .00077795  00000-0  32405-1 0    30
    2 32729 000.0562 359.3307 7314744 180.5944 119.0540 02.22983954    14
    D11_4
    1 32729U 08013A   08084.23082746  .00000025  00000-0  10599-2 0    47
    2 32729 000.1463 357.3875 7247076 184.1679 162.7743 02.21596465   107
    D11_5
    1 32729U 08013A   08084.70000000 -.00000475  00000-0  00000+0 0    56
    2 32729 000.1440 007.5960 7376044 174.1790 164.4470 02.05774466   110
    D11_6
    1 32729U 08013A   08085.19513840  .00008975  00000-0  53097-1 0    60
    2 32729 000.1426 358.1254 7379551 183.8548 171.1910 02.05800187   124
    D11_7
    1 32729U 08013A   08086.60000000 -.00000270  00000-0  00000+0 0    72
    2 32729 000.1250 011.4170 7460586 171.0630 108.2460 01.95852889   142
    D11_8
    1 32729U 08013A   08086.60434851 -.00000271  00000-0  00000+0 0    89
    2 32729 000.1296 359.4545 7462615 183.0618 111.2759 01.95865222   147
    D11_9
    1 32729U 08013A   08086.68521110 -.00000266  00000-0  00000+0 0    97
    2 32729 000.1240 359.7180 7462696 182.8231 168.2915 01.95863598   152
     
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    TLEs 7, 8 and 9 seem to travel identical paths, as do TLEs 5 and 6.
     
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    They might look that way, but they are not. If you look at the eccentricity in the TLEs (the value on the second line beginning 73 or 74) they are all different.
     
  19. Mar 26, 2008 #759 of 6958
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    I know that their TLE parameters are different, but when you look at the plot of their paths at the resolutions that we are typically looking at, they are essentially identical.
     
  20. Mar 26, 2008 #760 of 6958
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    Hey Tom, if there has been a couple others ahead, so to speak, are you talking mpeg4 or SD mpeg4 or what. I thought all these new HD locals are MPEG4.

    I guess that could explain things if they are moving some from spaceway then maybe they finally have the room for us. I suppose(pure speculation) with the spotbeam problem with D10 they may be more efficiently moving locals around to get the most use out of the spotbeam areas they are hitting and are capable of with both Spaceways and D-satellites. All this juggling may be taking awhile to figure out and they are just getting to our area now.

    Is it possible that the guy did indeed mean the D11 and just was wrong on the timing and maybe it will be up at lets say April 30th-- 2 weeks later then he said. that would be a month and a half from lift off of the D11 which supposedly is time enough to get it going? Maybe when he said the first he meant on the D11?

    Also Tom if you get in data or rumours or heresay i would love to here it!!:)

    Mike
     
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