Sixto Report-D12 Status: Pre-Launch

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  1. Apr 22, 2009 #701 of 1236
    Sixto

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    yep, just noticed the release from earlier today.

    as was just mentioned, that slot was EchoStar's, but it had an expiration date, and DirecTV applied on the day that the EchoStar license was to expire.

    here's the background (this post and those following posts): http://www.dbstalk.com/showthread.php?p=2025827&postcount=619

    seems like there's some behind-closed-doors stuff going on ...
     
  2. Apr 22, 2009 #702 of 1236
    smiddy

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    Can they use squatter's rights for something like this? (anyone?)
     
  3. Apr 22, 2009 #703 of 1236
    Sixto

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    hey smid ... in a way, they tried that! ... at the 5-year mark, when EchoStar didn't use the slot (3/9/2009), DirecTV squatted :) and filed to take the slot ... the FCC is now saying not so fast, we didn't say it was free yet ... and now we'll see how it plays out ... with the FCC being the governing body who makes the rules :)
     
  4. Apr 22, 2009 #704 of 1236
    Tom Robertson

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    No. If a company misses their milestones, without obtaining a waiver, they lose the license.

    Now... I don't know at what point the FCC declares the license revoked. First milestone, if I recall is to contract for the satellite build. Then design approval a year later. (and licenses have a $3M or so deposit that is refunded as you meet certain milestones. Miss them all, you lose the cash.)

    It is not unreasonable for DIRECTV to have filed a smidge early (before the license was fully revoked) because the next in the line for a slot gets a chance.

    Someone really is on their toes watching this stuff at DIRECTV. :) (Good job!)

    Cheers,
    Tom
     
  5. Apr 23, 2009 #705 of 1236
    Shades228

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    D12 is going to the 103
     
  6. Apr 23, 2009 #706 of 1236
    P Smith

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    Really ? Official doc required !
     
  7. Apr 23, 2009 #707 of 1236
    harsh

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    As I pointed out earlier, the official documentation that we have is that it is going to 101W. It seems reasonable that it will indeed go to 103W in spite of what DIRECTV has said, but nonetheless I echo P Smith's call for evidence.
     
  8. Apr 24, 2009 #708 of 1236
    dreadlk

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    If it's Ka how can it go at 101? Theres no LNB on the dishes to pick that up! It must be 99 or 103.
     
  9. Apr 24, 2009 #709 of 1236
    Sixto

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    That's what she said :)

    (but in all seriousness, they could release a KuKa 101° capable LNB - see previous posts)
     
  10. Apr 24, 2009 #710 of 1236
    heisman

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    Am I going to need a new dish and receivers to see this satellite?
     
  11. Apr 24, 2009 #711 of 1236
    hdtvfan0001

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    No.

    The D12 sat will be located within the existing sky line of sight to the existing satellites.
     
  12. Apr 24, 2009 #712 of 1236
    P Smith

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    Yes, see a post right above your !
     
  13. Apr 24, 2009 #713 of 1236
    evan_s

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    It's pretty safe bet that you won't need a new receiver.

    No one can say for sure for the LNB at this point but my bet is on NO because of the cost involved for DirecTV to swap out LNBs for all their existing customers.
     
  14. Apr 24, 2009 #714 of 1236
    P Smith

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    D12 could gather international channels, so swap to new LNBF could start from relatively small group.
     
  15. Apr 24, 2009 #715 of 1236
    evan_s

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    That is possible but there is nothing that would indicate that. They are predicting another 50+ national HD channels. Do they even have any international HD channels currently? I fully expect the channels to be for their core programing.
     
  16. Apr 24, 2009 #716 of 1236
    RobertE

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    Is there any documentation that says the current Ka/Ku LNBs can/can not do Ka @ 101?
     
  17. Apr 24, 2009 #717 of 1236
    David MacLeod

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    I'm curious too. I am very uninformed on this though :)
     
  18. Apr 24, 2009 #718 of 1236
    Tom Robertson

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  19. Apr 24, 2009 #719 of 1236
    P Smith

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    There are no pictures ! :(
     
  20. Apr 24, 2009 #720 of 1236
    David MacLeod

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    are for me.
     
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