Sixto Report-D12 Status: Pre-Launch

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  1. Apr 25, 2009 #721 of 1236
    Ernie

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    Except that's not the SL3 that been handed out for the last year. If somebody had planned for D12 at 101, then it would have a Ka module in the center position.

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  2. Apr 25, 2009 #722 of 1236
    harsh

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    OT: The SL3 has been available only for a few months. Earl announced it near the end of July and it hadn't gone into testing at that time. The earliest sightings happened in late September or early October.


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  3. Apr 25, 2009 #723 of 1236
    P Smith

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    Probably that time his server been busy - I can see them now.
     
  4. Apr 25, 2009 #724 of 1236
    Tom Robertson

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    That's ok, there are still only a couple million of the two original 5LNB models Sidecar and slimline. So they would all need replacing if Ka on 101° were happening. :)

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  5. Apr 25, 2009 #725 of 1236
    P Smith

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    If D12 will start from international channels, then the 'couple millions' will shrink to thousands.
     
  6. Apr 25, 2009 #726 of 1236
    LameLefty

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    That makes very little sense. There aren't enough international channels to justify using D12 for Ka from 101. That wouldn't free up hardly any bandwidth from 110 and 119, and what IS there is Ku only, and what's worse, most new installs seem to be going to 99-101-103 dishes anyway.
     
  7. Apr 25, 2009 #727 of 1236
    P Smith

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    Why not in term of implementing high compression for all SD to MPEG-4 to free up bandwidth and consolidate sats in close proximity for one dish ... See Dish Eastern Arc path. This mantra 'more national HD' wouldn't be lasts long - there are more then that.
     
  8. Apr 25, 2009 #728 of 1236
    Sixto

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    i was going to buy an SL3 LNB last week just to disassemble it but decided to just give it some more time and wait for the FCC filing. it's cheap ($29.99) so may eventually ... we'll see ...
     
  9. Apr 25, 2009 #729 of 1236
    RobertE

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    Got a case of them now. :)

    Anyway, how can one tell if the 101 portion is Ku only or Ka/Ku?

    The only thing I noticed that was significantly different in the picutres from a few posts above was that the little square cut outs were smaller on 99/103 than on 101/110/103.

    Would it be more appropriate to compare say the pc board of a dual 101 lnb to the 5 lnb pics?

    I've got no knowledge of the board layout and all that. Just curious as to how one would know what it is capable of just by looking at it. :confused:
     
  10. Apr 25, 2009 #730 of 1236
    Ernie

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    If you want to keep the numbers down, you could cut over smaller subscription groups one at a time. HD Extra pack, secondary HD RSNs, premium movie channels, 1080P PPV, HD Sports packages and HD porn are groups that are probably manageable. This is what happened before for NFL Superfan and West Coast Distant HD, so its possible they will do it again. For them it would be better if the had included BSS capability for those 3 locations as well. That way they wouldn't have to keep doing this over and over.


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  11. Apr 25, 2009 #731 of 1236
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    Problem is most of those don't help the situation.

    Secondary RSNs, the HD sports packs need to be available to everyone who might want to receive them. Most of the HD sports packs are just remaps of the RSNs so they aren't separate from the RSNs that have to be able to be received by everyone in the area the RSN covers. The main one that isn't is sunday ticket which shares spaces with PPV channels which again need to be available to everyone. The 1080p ppv is only Download on demand so doesn't use up any sat space either.
     
  12. Apr 25, 2009 #732 of 1236
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    The 1080p PPV's that are in your "Top Movies" folder on the DVR's are downloaded via the satellite so they do take some bandwidth. But it appears that they are downloaded in the middle of the night and early morning, probably using space that a part time RSN would be using in the evening.
     
  13. Apr 25, 2009 #733 of 1236
    Sixto

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    D11 Transponder 5 Slot 1050 is labeled "1080p Test" :)
     
  14. Apr 25, 2009 #734 of 1236
    Sixto

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    I was gonna take it apart, maybe post some pics, and ask the hardware guru's ...
     
  15. Apr 25, 2009 #735 of 1236
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    I wonder if this will be an actual broadcasted 1080p channel instead of a PPV?
     
  16. Apr 25, 2009 #736 of 1236
    Sixto

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    been "live" for weeks. replaced PPV HD 133 on 2/26/2009.
     
  17. Apr 25, 2009 #737 of 1236
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    Sooooooooooo in other words it another no HD channel in HD? :D
     
  18. Apr 25, 2009 #738 of 1236
    heisman

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    Thanks for clearing things up. :eek2:
     
  19. Apr 26, 2009 #739 of 1236
    Ernie

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    My point was that in the past D* has made hardware upgrades a requirement to continue to get certain services (such as secondary HD RSNs) as well as new services. By controlling the rate of cutover, they could have an orderly conversion.

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  20. Apr 26, 2009 #740 of 1236
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    Since we are paying extra for the HD extra pack I would hope some day we would get some kind of 24x7 1080p channel in that pack. Maybe an HD theater 1080p channel or something unique.
    Remember the old days of early HD when HD theater so new and unique? Someone needs to come up with a 1080p channel.

     
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