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Sixto Report-D12 Status: Pre-Launch

Discussion in 'DIRECTV General Discussion' started by Sixto, Jul 27, 2008.

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  1. Apr 28, 2009 #741 of 1236
    gib4500

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    whatever happened to espn going 1080P. I had read about the possiblity of this a couple years ago.
     
  2. Apr 28, 2009 #742 of 1236
    Brandon428

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    That would be awesome,but I doubt it'll happen anytime soon.
     
  3. Apr 28, 2009 #743 of 1236
    harsh

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    You wouldn't like ESPN at 24fps.
     
  4. Apr 28, 2009 #744 of 1236
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    60 fps ?

    EDIT: Found an answer here:
    "ESPN has designed the facility to support the 1080-line-progressive-scan (1080p) HD format at 60 frames per second (fps), which ESPN and other networks believe they will eventually use to produce content. While 1080p is still in its nascent stages as a broadcast format and 1080p production equipment is sparse, ESPN has installed a 3-gigabit-per-second routing infrastructure in L.A. and is getting as much beta-stage production gear as it can, such as prototype 1080p cameras."
     
  5. Apr 28, 2009 #745 of 1236
    raoul5788

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    Is this supposed to be informative?
     
  6. Apr 28, 2009 #746 of 1236
    P Smith

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    Rather harsh. But increase his post's counter. :p
     
  7. Apr 28, 2009 #747 of 1236
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    As I understand it 24fps would "flicker" too much for high speed sports action. the 60fps would be able to handle the action much better.
     
  8. Apr 28, 2009 #748 of 1236
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    It seems the best DirecTV can do at the moment is 1080p/24. Sports in 24fps would be craptacular. Thus, Harsh's comment. I don't think 1080p/60 broadcasts will come any time soon. That would require double the bandwidth of 1080i/60. Providers are having enough trouble allocating the bandwidth needed to do 1080i correctly!

    1080p/24, on the other hand, is more efficient than 1080i/60. It's 20% less pixels per second, and can very easily be "downconverted" to 1080i/60 for backwards compatibility. Win-win.

    -- Rob
     
  9. Apr 28, 2009 #749 of 1236
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    tkrandall

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    I don't know I'd say they are having "trouble" allocating the bandwidth to do 1080i correctly. They may be overtaxing their bandwidth due to the amount of other crap they try to squeeze on any given channel or tranponder, but that is matter of the choices they are making.
     
  11. Apr 29, 2009 #751 of 1236
    LameLefty

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    None of this has anything to do with Directv 12. Please, as Sixto asked politely . . .

    :backtotop:
     
  12. May 15, 2009 #752 of 1236
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    so are they going to launch D-12 or not? Its been what, well over a year since the last launch. and while D* eliminated the locals on the 72.5 dish, I really believe that the whole crowd here was totally disappointed in what they got.

    when will D* stop standing pat? if you are not moving forward you are going backward.

    what is the deal with this bird? the bottom line..
     
  13. May 15, 2009 #753 of 1236
    Sixto

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    the latest is a 2H-2009 launch with some sites saying September.

    post#1 will have the latest info (I do need to add the annual report reference).
     
  14. May 15, 2009 #754 of 1236
    LameLefty

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    The best info that has been found shows a launch by ILS (International Launch Services) aboard at Proton-M/Briz-M booster from Baikonaur Cosmodrome in late September.

    This time-frame is subject to weather, pad availability, technical issues with the booster, final checkout and outfitting of the satellite by Boeing, and FCC regulatory approval of launch and operation of the satellite.
     
  15. May 15, 2009 #755 of 1236
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    What is the latest date they ( D* ) would learn about it before the actual launch date ?

    Would they get 120/90/30 day notice before the scheduled launch date ?
     
  16. May 15, 2009 #756 of 1236
    Sixto

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    It's expected that DirecTV is working very closely with the launch provider and has a very clear vision of the launch schedule and contingency plans.

    We just don't have good visibility into those plans, other then the comments we've all referenced in this thread for the past several months.
     
  17. May 15, 2009 #757 of 1236
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    Thanks that makes sense.
     
  18. May 15, 2009 #758 of 1236
    harsh

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    Looking at the schedule maintained by anik on nasaspaceflight.com:

    Hours away -- ProtoStar 2
    June 29 -- Sirius FM-5
    July 15-August 15 -- AsiaSat 5
    September -- Nimiq 5
    End of September -- DIRECTV 12
    Q4 2009 -- ArabSat-5A
    Q4 2009 -- IntelSat 16
     
  19. May 16, 2009 #759 of 1236
    LameLefty

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    However, to provide a bit detail and perspective, these are JUST the Proton-M/Briz-M launches scheduled for this year from ILS at Baikonaur. There are a LOT more missions to be launched from Russian/Kazakh/Ukrainian facilities and rockets this year than these handful of Proton missions.

    For those worried that DIRECTV12 is listed as "End of September" keep in mind that it was not until mid-April that the current Protostar 2 launch went from "Middle of May" to "May 14" (it since slipped a couple days). The launch providers and satellite operators have no obligation to provide any information to anyone but their customers and regulatory agencies involved. The information becomes public as a side-effect of satellite delivery and launch prep operations, not just because we want it to be.
     
  20. May 16, 2009 #760 of 1236
    harsh

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    As other Baikonur (note the correct spelling) launches don't materially impact Proton-M/Briz-M launches and DIRECTV can only use that combination of vehicles for a land launch, I thought it useful to not clutter things with the schedule of other launch vehicles.

    I would also point out that the interval between successive launches has typically been greater than 30 days.
     
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