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Discussion in 'DIRECTV General Discussion' started by Sixto, Jul 27, 2008.
Sirius FM5 is now in Baikonur for early July launch.
Updated similarly on nasaspaceflight.com yesterday (Moscow time). I don't think it is putting the squeeze on AsiaSat 5 yet.
My apologies if this has already been covered in this long threaed, but this 10-K:
Satellite To Be Launched. DIRECTV 12 is planned for launch in the second half of 2009. DIRECTV 12 will operate from our 101° WL orbital location after successful completion of in-orbit testing. DIRECTV 12 will provide us with increased capability for local and national HD channels, as well as capacity for new interactive and enhanced services once it becomes operational.
Says DirecTV 12 will be operated at 101W. How will(?) that work with existing dish's and stack plan?
Yea its been covered here....possible typo ?
I think our cowboy friend is correct - almost certainly a typo or a simple mental disconnect between the technical folks and the, well, less technical folks who prepare the financial and investor presentations.
A 10-K is a bad place for a typo!
Well, from my perspective (based on experience as both an engineer and an attorney) ANY place in official correspondence is a bad place for a typo.
However, having said that (and having made a few in my time), the reality is that putting "101 W" in a document rather than "103 W" or "99 W" is not a material error or omission that would affect investor value. The only entity that really cares where Directv puts Directv 12 is the FCC. The shareholders (and thus the SEC) only care that it launches more or less within the predicted time, and that it does provide the benefits that the 10-K says it does, regardless of the exact orbital slot (note that there are already multiple sats at all the locations and the "slots" are rounded to the nearest nominal position anyway in most documentation).
I truly love the word "nominal". Seriously - I get a kick out of it.
And I have no idea why...
Actually if you consider the long-winded safe harbor disclaimers you would think that these reports are always issued with fingers crossed behind their backs.
Heh. You mean they're not? :lol:
"Sir, the mains are back online."
Pronounced "Nah-MEE-Nol" :lol:
And just to put things in perspective in terms of the timeline of events, the FCC has accepted SiriusXM's application for permission to operate XM-5.
So if you figure a launch in early July, that's roughly 5 weeks' heads-up time. Similarly, we might expect similar filings from Directv regarding D12 around mid/late August.
SiriusXM applied for the Sirius FM-5 license on 2/17/2009 and then time passed from application to approval, but application in February for launch late-June / early July seems reasonable. Is somewhat interesting that we haven't seen the D12 application yet. Not concerning, just interesting.
Just some stuff to pass the time while we wait:
For those interested in some more general information about the Proton-M/Briz-M launch vehicle which will be used to launch Directv 12 later this summer/early fall, here is the overview ILS has produced for the current launch campaign for SiriusXM FM-5. It's a different satellite platform, so the details of the exact launch profile shown on page 2 are different from what will be performed for D12. In general, however, the type of launch and transfer are the same. Specifically, the Briz-M upper stage will do a rather complicated series of burns to put the satellite into the proper GTO (geostationary transfer orbit). Given the high latitude of the launch location and the highly elliptical orbit, the projected ground tracks of the vehicle over the earth will be quite counter-intuitive and confusing, but things will settle down over time and make sense again.
Not worried about the timelines in the least.
Just to get a better understanding of the D12 timeline. Last I read the launch date was not officially set yet. However, I read it's slated for end of September-ish. Question, how far in advance did they official announce D11's launch date? I'm just trying to gauge if we're still on pace for a launch in 90+ days from today.
Remember that D11 went up via Sea Launch.
Yeah, I know it was a different contractor. I'm just looking to get a feel if we're still on pace to meet a launch date 90+ dates from now. Surly the contractor launching D12 has to have some history or a standard protocol for releasing launch dates.
ILS has a relatively easy to follow record, but you won't find it by researching Sea Launch who is far and away the most tight-lipped of contractors. With Sea Launch, you hear about delivery of the satellite by Boeing long before there's any mention of dates.