Sixto Report-D12 Status: Pre-Launch

Discussion in 'DIRECTV General Discussion' started by Sixto, Jul 27, 2008.

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  1. bobnielsen

    bobnielsen Éminence grise

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    Out here in the West, you can go more than an hour in any direction and you are still in the same DMA :D
     
  2. P Smith

    P Smith Mr. FixAnything

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    Seen latest news about Nimiq 5 at ILS site, I'm thinking I saw that sat did start moving out of CA.
     
  3. Sixto

    Sixto Well-Known Member

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  4. Hoosier205

    Hoosier205 Active Member

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    Alright, I've read a bit of this thread and I understand none of it. I'm going to ask a simple questions and I apologize in advance if it has been asked a hundred times before. I am a new customer with a 5LNB slimline (hooked up as 3LNB because I only need one receiver). I make that statement not even knowing what it means.

    Will anything have to be done to my dish in order for it to pick up this new satellite?

    I assume not because that would be an incredible pain to basically realign/modify every dish in the country. So, I know it is a silly question...but I was curious.
     
  5. Sixto

    Sixto Well-Known Member

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    As far as we know ... not yet seeing the stack plan ... any receiver that currently gets HD channels from D10, D11, SW1, and SW2 should be able to receive channels from D12 after a receiver firmware update.
     
  6. Mertzen

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    Hey I drove over 3 hours and I'm still in the same spot. Oh wait, that something else :lol::lol:
     
  7. carl6

    carl6 Moderator Staff Member DBSTalk Club

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    Both the 3-LNB and 5-LNB versions of the Slimline dish receive the newer satellites that carry DirecTV's HD programming. Does not matter which you have in most cases (and it has nothing to do with how many receivers you have).
    As Sixto noted, it is very likely that current HD setups will be able to get programming from D12 when it is placed in service. It really would not make sense for DirecTV to put up a (very expensive) satellite that would require new equipment to receive from it, so soon after having done just exactly that with the mpeg4 conversion.
     
  8. evan_s

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    There is no reason at all that D12 would require a change in the stack plan. The stack plan already includes the entire 500mhz blocks of both right and left polarization from Ka Hi at 103. Granted most are getting little to no signal there from spaceway 2 because it's providing a limited number of spots but the space is already reserved so to speak.

    I expect a firmware update may be needed to tell the receivers the new pattern for the transponders there since the conus transponders from d12 are a different size than what Spaceway 2 uses. It will also probably change the 103c signal strength page to include all the new tps and pretty much fill up the page.
     
  9. Sixto

    Sixto Well-Known Member

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    Yep, fully agree.
     
  10. hdtvfan0001

    hdtvfan0001 Well-Known Member

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    We may actually already have the proper firmware, but not know it. :D:lol:

    (It could just be inactive at this time)

    In any case, there is plenty of time to push out an update prior to D12 activation, if something more is needed.
     
  11. Hoosier205

    Hoosier205 Active Member

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    Thank you all!
     
  12. spear61

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    Sixto has a very nice thread going here.

    These are the complete spot contours for D12 operating at max power. Reception is probably good out to the white or pink contours ( low 50's dbw) when operating at max power.

    But, normally the power will be dialed down to match the market.
     

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  13. Drew2k

    Drew2k New Member

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    Those pics are awesome - I don't think I've ever seen the spot beam coverage represented like this!
     
  14. Sixto

    Sixto Well-Known Member

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    Very nice! Looks like 48 spots. Thought there were 49. Outstanding work!
     
  15. LameLefty

    LameLefty I used to be a rocket scientist

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    Great stuff. :up:

    Don't know where you got the info, but we appreciate it!
     
  16. P Smith

    P Smith Mr. FixAnything

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    Seen similar maps generated by nelson61 at SG ;).
     
  17. Gary Toma

    Gary Toma UNIX

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    Spear61,
    These are some of the best beam contour maps I have seen. Can you share your source? It would be great to have a standing set of accurate maps maintained here for all the sats!

    Thanks!
     
  18. Bob Coxner

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    The last image has the El Paso spotbeam apparently centered on the Big Bend. I highly doubt that. :) The pattern for Juneau in that same image is also interesting.
     
  19. Alan Gordon

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    WOW! You can really appreciate the intricacies of providing spot-beam coverage to Hawaii!

    ~Alan<~~~~~~~Who probably won't be receiving HD-LIL off of D12, but may receive it from another satellite after a neighboring market's locals are transferred to D12....
     
  20. Sixto

    Sixto Well-Known Member

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    I figured the spot map was created by taking some info from the FCC doc and entering it into a map program, but now not so sure. Haven't yet found any data that matches. :)
     
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