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SixtoReport: D10/D12 Satellite Info in Post#1 - Both D10 & D12 in service

Discussion in 'DIRECTV General Discussion' started by Sixto, May 7, 2010.

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  1. May 7, 2010 #21 of 1252
    raoul5788

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    D12 adds the capacity for 10 additional hd channels over D10, which ups the potential national hd channels to 210 or so. Fixing the spot beams on D10 could add more local hd channels, although I don't think anyone knows just how many since the number of problematic transponders was never revealed, IIRC.

    Come to think of it, they knew about D12's extra transponders, so nix my comments about additional national hd channels!
     
  2. May 7, 2010 #22 of 1252
    Sixto

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    There will be people debating both sides, but it's quite possible.
     
  3. May 7, 2010 #23 of 1252
    slimoli

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    If D10 is fixed, the extra capacity can only be used for locals, is that right ?
     
  4. May 7, 2010 #24 of 1252
    syphix

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    BUT...off loading D10's HD's to D12 will not consume all of D12's national HD bandwidth. There still should be 10 channels available prior to D10 coming back online.
     
  5. May 7, 2010 #25 of 1252
    raoul5788

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    Yup.
     
  6. May 7, 2010 #26 of 1252
    Brent04

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    I hope that whatever they plan on doing to D10 doesn’t damage the satellite further if what they try does not work.
     
  7. May 7, 2010 #27 of 1252
    Mike Bertelson

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    I would think so. At least since it was spot beams that were the issue then i would think that's what would be fixed.

    Mike
     
  8. May 7, 2010 #28 of 1252
    Sixto

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    Speculation: maybe that's why D12 spent almost three months testing, just maybe.
     
  9. May 7, 2010 #29 of 1252
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    Exactly what I was thinking. Great news. I hope the D10 fix works.
     
  10. May 7, 2010 #30 of 1252
    Mike Bertelson

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    It might explain the "wobbling". They could have been testing jockeying around in a small "box".

    Mike
     
  11. May 7, 2010 #31 of 1252
    SteveHas

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    Outstanding news, thank you!
    It is speculation but I am putting myself in the camp that says this was the reason for the D12 delay.


    Isn't ameliorate something you do to your food?
     
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  13. May 7, 2010 #33 of 1252
    rorkin

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    Ameliorate is an interesting choice of words.. It does not really mean fix all the problems..
    It is more in the order of lessening the severity of the problem.. Example

    If they fixed 6 out of a hypothetical 10 bad transponders, that would be considered ameliorating the problem. We will probably never know the extent of the amelioration :hurah:
    The term is a little vague

    See: http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/ameliorate
     
  14. May 7, 2010 #34 of 1252
    harsh

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    DIRECTV's stated plan was to move all D10 LIL to D12 and make D10 CONUS only. I'm not sure that together they would make such a great spotbeam team unless they're going to shift the downlink frequencies of D10 once it gets back.
     
  15. May 7, 2010 #35 of 1252
    thelucky1

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    Yeah hard not to agree with Sixto!!! :D
     
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    rorkin

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    I still don't see the reason for moving it back once the problems are ameliorated :)
     
  17. May 7, 2010 #37 of 1252
    harsh

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    Add "ameliorate" to "up to" and "soon" in the vague vocabulary.
     
  18. May 7, 2010 #38 of 1252
    harsh

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    While the spotbeam capacities aren't necessarily additive, the CONUS capacities are.
     
  19. May 7, 2010 #39 of 1252
    evan_s

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    I think it is interesting that they are trying to repair the spots on D10 since they are saying D12's spots are a replacement for D10's.

    I wonder what they are doing to fix the issue. Obviously they aren't drifting too far and it is still close enough that they are going to be transitioning channels while drifting it to that location.
     
  20. May 7, 2010 #40 of 1252
    bobnielsen

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    Since Directv hasn't announced exactly what they will be doing, we don't really have any definite knowledge. I suspect that they don't plan on doing anything drastic which would place D10 in risk for CONUS use, but they may do something like rearranging the spotbeam transponder/antenna matrix to shift things around a bit and make it more useful overall. This would probably involve software upgrades or procedures which may have been tested on D12, both prelaunch and during the 76° testing. Since it involves spotbeams, moving the satellite slightly could avoid interference issues with the signals from SW1 and D12. The final result may be that they can achieve more spots than they would from a single satellite, hence more LiLs may be possible.
     
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