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SixtoReport: D10/D12 Satellite Info in Post#1 - Both D10 & D12 in service

Discussion in 'DIRECTV General Discussion' started by Sixto, May 7, 2010.

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  1. Jun 12, 2010 #981 of 1252
    JosephB

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    I don't think the Spaceway satellites provide any significant advantage to VOD downloads over the other satellites, other than the ability for relatively small spotbeams and reuse of frequencies in that manner. The satellite-to-satellite IP routing really wouldn't come into play, because you don't have two way traffic between the receivers and other receivers or the ground. You *might* get a slight advantage from IP multicasting, but I highly doubt the receivers have the ability to handle that kind of thing from the satellites.
     
  2. Jun 12, 2010 #982 of 1252
    georule

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    I think I don't understand why having their own satellites would really help with their mode of VOD-over-the-internet. Other than to the degree that using a satellite otherwise not in use, and otherwise not useable for some other necessary D* function, might be a marginal cost savings somewhere in the internet chain over purchasing that service. This certainly may be my ignorance --feel free to point me at a educational resource if one is handy.

    Edit: Maybe that was too indirect, and the direct question would suffice --are some VOD delivered direct to my STB from a D* satellite, rather than travelling over the public internet?
     
  3. Jun 12, 2010 #983 of 1252
    RAD

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    A 'guess' is that maybe they've found a way to do a 'high speed' push to a receiver of a DoD movie via SW1 (or SW2) so a 2 hour movie could be download in a matter of minutes. And with the capability of reconfiguring the spotbeams on the fly they could move them around to where the demand is greatest.
     
  4. Jun 12, 2010 #984 of 1252
    inkahauts

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    I believe that one of the keys would be that they could use its spotbeams to send certain movies to certain markets faster when it knew that someone in that area wanted a particular movie....
     
  5. Jun 12, 2010 #985 of 1252
    texasbrit

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    I want my own spotbeam...!:):):):)
     
  6. Jun 12, 2010 #986 of 1252
    James Long

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    It sounds interesting. My questions on such a plan would be keeping track of where customers are to dynamically allocate a spot to their area and uplink bandwidth. Frequency reuse for transmitting on spotbeam satellites requires frequency reuse for receiving ... and all frequencies must be within the capabilities and license of the satellite.
     
  7. Jun 13, 2010 #987 of 1252
    seern

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    No one seems to have noticed Sixto has changed the thread title and posted a new status on page 1. Seems we are almost back in business with D10.
     
  8. Jun 13, 2010 #988 of 1252
    Sixto

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    Yep, D12 within 10 days, D10 possibly much sooner.
     
  9. Jun 13, 2010 #989 of 1252
    Dolly

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    You know me this thread is way too high Tech for me :blush: But I think this means that D* will hit its' target of more HD in June?
     
  10. Jun 13, 2010 #990 of 1252
    hdtvfan0001

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    D10 and D12 will be on service as scheduled. :D

    Good news Sixto.
     
  11. Jun 13, 2010 #991 of 1252
    HerntDawg

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    Happy to see D10 is good.

    Let my/the festivus continue :)

    Hernt
     
  12. Jun 13, 2010 #992 of 1252
    jerrylove56

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    Did the glitch from last week have anything to do with D10 - D12 updates/change overs?
     
  13. Jun 13, 2010 #993 of 1252
    Sixto

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    No.
     
  14. Jun 13, 2010 #994 of 1252
    Jaspear

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    The answer is yes. I found a VOD HD episode of "The Tudors" on my receiver a few weeks ago, during the one week that I forgot to record it on Sunday night. Given the speed of my internet service (512 kpbs after the initial burst), it would have taken 12 hours or more to download that. I would have noticed my internet being essentially unusable for that length of time.
     
  15. Jun 13, 2010 #995 of 1252
    adkinsjm

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    There has been some VOD delivered via satellite for a while. Mainly movies, but also content from The 101.
     
  16. Jun 13, 2010 #996 of 1252
    Sixto

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    Was thinking that the D10 move may have started, but not yet.

    D10 is still sitting at 102.6°, as of a few hours ago.

    Thinking nationals may move back by Wednesday.

    Seems that old-D10 LiL is staying on D12.

    Wondering if we'll have access to the notice to the FCC that testing is complete, and any hint of success publicly documented.
     
  17. Jun 13, 2010 #997 of 1252
    georule

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    D* is known to pre-load certain high-demand VOD on DVRs. For that kind of thing, I could see the utility of using the satellites, limited by the amount of space on customer DVRs they have dedicated to pre-loads.

    But the model of "a customer in Kansas decides he wants to watch low-demand movie X, selects it, and satellite transponder wakes up and 'gets busy'?". I could be totally off base here, but the shear math of that comparing customers to transponders strikes me as unlikely.
     
  18. Jun 13, 2010 #998 of 1252
    P Smith

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    Sixto, is that conclusion came from FCC filing ? Or there is something in APG what I'm missing ?
     
  19. Jun 13, 2010 #999 of 1252
    georule

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    Yeah, FCC asked for a report on the results --I hope we see it.

    But. . . if D12 is taking the LiL, and D10 is going to backup (or even "new lower DMA markets"), that does suggest that even if "amelioration" was successful to some degree, it didn't bring D10 BSS up to D12 standards.

    "Success" can be a relative term.

    Or maybe there is some reason why there is no particular advantage to moving D12 back to D10 for LiL, so they decided not to make the effort.
     
  20. Sixto

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    Seems totally unrelated to the successful amelioration, just possibly there's no need to move the LiL back, and they'd rather follow the original plan, then tweak the plan with D10 now having additional capabilities.

    Again, just basing this on reading some public and non-public tea leaves.
     
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