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SixtoReport: D12 Satellite Info in Post#1 - Live!

Discussion in 'DIRECTV General Discussion' started by Sixto, Jul 27, 2008.

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  1. May 1, 2010 #7681 of 10270
    TheRatPatrol

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    With a week or so of testing, so no new HD channel until May 26th, which still gives them the "beginning in May" time frame.
     
  2. May 1, 2010 #7682 of 10270
    P Smith

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    It depends.
     
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    curt8403

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    well, they could burn the midnight oil.
     
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    Davenlr

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    Only if they are on the Gulf Coast.
     
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    curt8403

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    could also refer to the Aussie Band
     
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    TheRatPatrol

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    On what?
     
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    curt8403

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    on how fast directv wants to get the sat to it's new location,
    A small thrust will move it slowly, a longer thrust will move it faster, but use more fuel
     
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    TheRatPatrol

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    Got it, thanks. Now if they would just start moving it. ;)

    Although some have stated that it maybe moving now.
     
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    brett_the_bomb

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    I thought i heard some talk about TLEs being released and then updated later due to most of them being a prediction of some sort. (feel free to clarify if im wrong) So does that mean that the last TLE could actually be inacturate? and by that i mean any last TLE.
     
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    hdtvfan0001

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    No TLE update since early 4/29.

    Wonder where the 5/3/10 TLE will show the bird on Monday....hmmm.... :D
     
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    Wonder why the next TLE has to be on Monday, and not later this afternoon, or tomorrow, or Tuesday.
     
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    hdtvfan0001

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    Same reason there was not one yesterday....
     
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    Still no TLE, so I could still be right about the drift starting yesterday.
     
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    James Long

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    So what if the TLE creators have not released one for D12 in 60 hours? That doesn't mean the satellite is in trouble. (Although they have released three E14 TLEs over the past 60 hours ... although all that has served to do is confirm that E14 is not drifting as of 7am ish.)

    That's probably the silver lining here ... a TLE could just confirm there was no change in the last 60 hours. Hope for the best that the next one will give better numbers not status quo.
     
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    TBlazer07

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    I was speaking in generalities. Frankly I don't give a hoot about D12 or D19 for that matter because I have enough HD programming to last me a lifetime. 12 more sports channels, PPV's or even The Eastern North African Female Less than 2 TON Elephant With 3 Tusk Channel in HD really doesn't interest me. :)

    What I was just wondering was how the "TLE SYSTEM" worked. Considering it is run by NORAD I would think a schedule is a schedule and was curious as to why they wouldn't have data for a period of days. Maybe THEIR systems are down?
     
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    kevinwmsn

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    Maybe D* or Boeing is testing out the cloaking device. :lol:
     
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    Tom Robertson

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    The "schedule" is the schedule of readings based upon expected movements. The "release" of TLE for an individual satellite is not scheduled. It is as needed to keep the movement well described.

    So a satellite that is still in its box on its normal orbit doesn't get tracked nor described via TLE nearly as often as one that is moving relative to the other items in its neighborhood.

    Cheers,
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    hdtvfan0001

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    Nobody said it did.

    TLE's have been skipped or delayed before. Often, when 2-3 days are missed...it is followed by a significant change.
     
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    bobnielsen

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    Wasn't that what we observed with D10?
     
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    James Long

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    That makes sense ... if the last TLE still describes where the satellite is today there is no need for a new description.

    It also means that a) the satellite is still following the description from 60 hours ago and has not changed (no drift has begun), b) something is wrong with the path between where TLEs are created and the public websites where we can see them and the next TLE we see may be 172 or 173 ... or c) the current TLE (beyond 170) is being held as secret (that would be a long shot).

    There is a good chance that D12 is still "parked". Hopefully confirmation or rebuke will come in the form of a TLE before the 72 hour mark passes.
     
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