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SixtoReport: D12 Satellite Info in Post#1 - Live!

Discussion in 'DIRECTV General Discussion' started by Sixto, Jul 27, 2008.

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  1. May 5, 2010 #8321 of 10270
    evan_s

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    Last press release I saw DirecTV wasn't claiming any increase in HD LiL capacity. Instead, it was still stating the same 1500 LiL's capacity. This seems to be because D12 is a "replacement" for d10 to correct it's spot issues. I suspect what we will actually see is that the spots will be shared between both d10 and d12 which is going to help D12 run at 16 conus tp's instead of 14 like d10 and d11 have been. I also wouldn't be too surprised to see d10 turn two extra TPs back on once d12 has taken over some of the spots and they have started to fill up d12. We know it ran 16tps in the past and with less power needs for spots it should be able to do it again.

    I am also going to predict RB1 at 99 will be the next sat launched which will have a BSS payload and some KA Hi conus tps like D12. Allowing some immediate expansion of national HD channels with existing equipment.
     
  2. May 5, 2010 #8322 of 10270
    Earl Bonovich

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    D12 needs it's hair dryer... it can't live with out it.
     
  3. May 5, 2010 #8323 of 10270
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    Thank-you. You have no idea how much my Wife will appreciate this.
     
  4. May 5, 2010 #8324 of 10270
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    I'm not one of the experts but I understand that by raising it to a higher orbit is slowing it down as far it's relationship the the ground is concerned. It is drifting backwards to reach 103. Would that be right?
     
  5. May 5, 2010 #8325 of 10270
    rey_1178

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    Where is James Long???? Haven't seen a post since the drift was reported.
     
  6. May 5, 2010 #8326 of 10270
    Stuart Sweet

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    Mr. Long has many other responsibilities on this site and I'm sure there's a limit to the amount of time he chooses to spend policing this thread. That's what I'm here for.
     
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    uncrules

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    He did spend a lot time here before D12 started drifting. He even said he was just being a "regular" poster.
     
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    Stuart Sweet

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    I'll be sure to tell him you miss him :)
     
  9. May 5, 2010 #8329 of 10270
    mcbeevee

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    111°?? Does that mean the 3-lnb dishes will need to upgrade to 5 (or 4)-lnb? Either upgrade or add a second dish!

    :)
     
  10. May 5, 2010 #8330 of 10270
    RAD

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    Dripping...
    That's alright, if he's busy with the Dish forums he should spend his time there if needed. ;)
     
  11. May 5, 2010 #8331 of 10270
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    BSS will most likely require a whole new LNB to receive the signals.
     
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    So is there consensus they "juiced" the drift a little more than we expected? Weren't we looking for ~20 days upstream, and we're actually going to get ~11/12?
     
  13. May 5, 2010 #8333 of 10270
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    Not that I'm an expert, but yes. Its orbital velocity is lower than in geosynchronous orbit, its circumference around the earth is greater and its angular velocity around the earth is lower, giving it a ground (ocean?) speed to the west.
     
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    Tom Robertson

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    You may claim to not be an expert, but you sure said it well. :)
     
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    Yes please satelliteracer we would LOVE to hear your bet on when the new HD channels go live!!! :D
     
  16. May 5, 2010 #8336 of 10270
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    This is true, despite the fact that what they did was to speed it up. Basically, speeding it up, increasesd its kinetic energy (energy due to motion). This resulted in it moving to a higher orbit, which has higher potential energy (energy due to height). The higher orbit (higher potential energy) is slower (lower kinetic energy). mathwise, its this....

    old kinetic energy + old potential energy + energy from thrust = new kinetic energy + new potential energy

    Now, if only we could hire Maxwell's Demon to suck the xenon back in and unthrust the thrust, but alas there is the second law of thermodynamics.
     
  17. May 5, 2010 #8337 of 10270
    LameLefty

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    Entropy's a bitch. :)
     
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    We currently expect BSS to require a new LNB. As far as what 111 will be used for, we don't know yet. It could be backhauling, International channels, locals in some markets etc. There are a number of possibilities and I don't think DirecTV really wants to push their normal window wider so I predict non core usage. Plus I think it's only 12 tps, half of the 24 bss tps, because it is shared with dish.
     
  20. May 5, 2010 #8340 of 10270
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    What is a BSS satellite?
     
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