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Sling Media introduces SlingGuide - Official Press Release

Discussion in 'General DISH™ Discussion' started by Jason Nipp, Jan 9, 2009.

  1. Jim148

    Jim148 Godfather

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    I just found this thread and it is interesting reading the posts. I wanted to get a Slingbox some time back, but then when I heard about a possible "all in one" I decided to wait. I am probably eligible for an upgrade on my leased 622, but I think I will continue to wait until the 922 becomes available. Keep up the beta testing guys!
     
  2. FastNOC

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    There is a LOT more to it than 'coding a website for a browser.'. Some companies are Microsoft houses that work exclusively with it. There are still some very large companies that require users to stay on ie6 because of active directory, sharepoint and other internal mechanisms that aren't as simple as 'hey let's make this work for everything'.


    As a lead developer I'm sure you know this, but I'm not sure why you made a derogatory statement and pointed it to something that's absolutely more involved than what you said.
     
  3. sremick

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    Which is kind of the posterboy reason why no one, large or small, should build such systems around, on, and dependent on proprietary single-vendor version-specific "extensions" of an established standard.

    There was no shortage of people preaching and crying from the rooftops on this exact issue back when IE6 was fresh and current. They had the foresight to be able to recognize that this would be the long-term price for selling out to MS and going the "easy route". Everyone had the opportunity to do the smart thing, but some didn't and now are paying a heavy price for it, having shot themselves in the foot by allowing themselves to be entrenched in archaic, buggy, proprietary tech while the rest of the world nimbly blows by them.

    They had no excuse, and I have no sympathy for them. They deserve to suffer and be ostracized for their bad business decisions. Only by paying a price will they have any hope of learning from their mistakes and realize there's an incentive to do "smart" over "easy" in the future.

    Code for standards, not for browsers.
     
  4. FastNOC

    FastNOC Godfather

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    Microsoft networks are by far the largest selling web servers among fortune 1000 companies. It's not as simple as you'd like it to be, and this isn't the place for the argument. but there's lots more to it.
     
  5. sremick

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    Well, considering that the most-popular web server software isn't "sold", that's kind of deceiving. ;)

    (Note: I work as an IT admin and run webservers at a Fortune 1000 company)

    Agreed.
     
  6. FastNOC

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    if there's a place on the forum to discuss it I'd be happy to. it's a good discussion. If you want to make a thread just link me to it.

    As for experience with it, I just managed a project for Intel Corporation revamping the entire internal hosting. They are 100% microsoft.

    As far as deceiving, it's not deceiving because the number is 55% use Microsoft web servers. 24% use apache. The number INCLUDES free web server platforms
     
  7. JimD

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    I joined and find this to be pretty cool. I use it on my iPhone. The only bad part is that the remote buttons are pretty limited - there's too little space to put enough of them.

    As an aside, the demo video on the sling guide website made me chuckle near the end. Sharon actually POINTS the iPhone at the TV when she presses the button to watch Iron Man. :lol::lol:
     
  8. FastNOC

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    I'm curious as to how much delay there is using the iphone to control it. My first thought it it would be annoying. but I don't see people complaining about it.
     
  9. HobbyTalk

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    Using a PC I've found it to be almost instant, can't tell much different then using your remote.
     
  10. JimD

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    Same for me, even on my iPhone. It is astonishing how fast the response is.

    I did have something weird happen today. I was poking around with the interface on my iPhone from the office. I was speaking to my wife, who had a recording in playback and paused on the 722. I tried to start a live TV show, and what happened was not at all what I expected.

    I got a warning that I had to go to live mode first to perform this action. But still the recording my wife had paused went away, and she was suddenly watching live TV on the last channel to which the DVR had been tuned.
     
  11. HDftw

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    I just watched the video on slingguide. So If I'm correct the Vip722 will only have access to the sling guide; and will need a seperate sling box to watch tv any where? Also will the Vip922 have built in sling box?
     
  12. James Long

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    Correct on both counts.
     
  13. just_dave

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    Thanks for the SlingGuide info. I was able to set mine up but connecting to my DVR is hit and miss. Sometimes I get connected right away and sometimes it takes a few minutes. Often it won't connect at all. Reseting the DVR Ethernet connection doesn't help. When I go to the dish.sling.com site, I get "waiting for connection", the DVR name doesn't update and it just sits there. Anyone else having this trouble? Any ideas? Thanks, Dave
     
  14. FastNOC

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    Do you have dial up or broadband?

    Your issue sounds more like a connectivity issue with your ISP than a problem with sling.

    If you're on broadband, is it Satellite broadband? There are horrible latency issues with sat broadband and I could see sling timing out.
     
  15. just_dave

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    No, it's DSL. I work from home and haven't noticed any issues with my VPN or other connections. I seems like a problem from Sling Guide to the DVR. Question...where does the Sling Guide web page get the DVR 'name' from? The DVR or from your account settings? - Dave
     
  16. FastNOC

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    This is speculation, but what I think happens is, once you register your DVR nickname, it authenticates the box and shows you the name. So how I THINK it works is, it grabs the info from the site to make sure the box is authorized, then tries to contact the DVR itself.

    But with the problem you're seeing there's something wrong between you and them. I get connected within the first 4 or 5 seconds.

    Could it be a firewall issue? I think you're right about it being between sling and the dvr. for sure.
     
  17. just_dave

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    I'll go back and reseat all of the connections, maybe use a different port on my Router. Not sure what else it could be. I'd like to think that if it works once that would rule out firewalls, etc, but who knows. I'll go into my router and take a look at anything that jumps out at me. Thanks again. - Dave
     
  18. FastNOC

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    Well, logically it could be the route between the sling side and you. Just because you can route to them doesn't necessarily mean they are going to ride the same route back to you. there may be an intermittent peering problem somewhere along the lines. But those usually resolve pretty quickly.

    As for firewall, i agree, except, if you've got some app that's open a range of ports, and the ports this stuff uses also shares those ports that could be it. I have no idea what ports they tranmit. hell i don't even know if it's TCP/IP or UDP
     
  19. HobbyTalk

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    Ports should not have to be opened for SlingGuide to work in a normal home network setting. I see that some that have had to that when they have a more complex home network.
     
  20. FastNOC

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    i agree it shouldn't matter. but something is wrong. can't figure out what it is without troubleshooting and I figured those things I mentioned could help.

    The problem here is that we can run a trace to the sling site from him, but that doesn't seem to be the problem. if you ask me the problem is between the sling site and the routing coming back, which there's no way to trace from his place
     

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