Sling TV opens its doors to all cord-cutters

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  1. Athlon646464

    Athlon646464 Yada Yada Yada DBSTalk Gold Club

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    Sadly, for now, yes.

    I do believe, however, that some day there will be 'broadband' solutions for all. Technology in that area is being developed as we are watching this thread. AT&T, for one, is a good example of that. (Research, I mean. :grin: )
     
  2. tsmacro

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    Yes these kind of services are really only available for people with fast HSI with no data caps, so that means a lot people are excluded.
     
  3. kick4fun

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    This is so silly... Assuming everyone already has internet, this new option still saves me $100.
     
  4. kick4fun

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    It's attractive to me. I already have Netflix.
     
  5. kick4fun

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    Yep... Not paying for channels I never watch. ;)
     
  6. david_jr

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    Do you really think Hollywood is going to let their content go for less? They will find ways to make it up either by adding more forced commercials or by raising the price after they get enough of a base hooked in. In life you get what you pay for. Unless it isn't available in your area.
     
  7. Laxguy

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    That's silly. Not only does everyone not have internet, many many millions of US citizens have insufficient internet.
     
  8. mwdxer

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    I live out in rural Oregon and the choice for really fast internet available is Charter Cable. DSL is not here and satellite is not great with our weather in the Winter. But fortunately for $50 a month I do get 60-65 and our area is rural and far from rich. It works just fine with streaming. Some of the channels on the Roku are HD quality.
     
  9. Stewart Vernon

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    Exactly... and even if you do have sufficient internet, when you are watching TV on it that bandwidth isn't available for other internet things... or at least not as fast... so presuming you had internet because you needed or wanted it for other uses, you have piled on another use of it with the streaming.

    It's like people who demand free shipping but never want to count the cost of gas when they drive to a store to pick something up locally. Somehow that gas "doesn't count" because it was already in their car anyway.

    Same with streaming... people don't want to count the total cost, including at least a part of their internet as if it isn't happening. These are the people, I suspect, who forget there are other costs to provide satellite/cable than just the content... like the delivery mechanism!

    For what you get... and the mostly guaranteed 100% up-time of cable/satellite TV... it's hard to beat the bang for the buck.
     
  10. SayWhat?

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    As long as there's a Jock Tax in it, I ain't bitin', web capacity or not. I just cancelled Dish after close to 20 years and I'll never pay a Jock Tax again. I can find plenty of other ways to fill the TV screen.
     
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  11. Athlon646464

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    But the gas needs to be replenished. My bandwidth does not need to be replenished. I view it as a fixed cost. I need it for other things, so I'll always have internet at my house whether we stream or not.

    There are three of us here, and we can all stream something different at the same time. Although that is a rare occurrence, we can.

    Before my first Roku, and my second Roku and my Fire Stick I had exactly the same internet plan as I do today. So, again - I view my internet as a fixed cost. I'm just able to do more with it today than I could yesterday. I can even save on my cell phone bill by making wifi calls when home (T-Mobile).

    If I were to unplug from D* and go all streaming I could save at least $900 per year. For the $900 I would lose my DVR capability and locals. So, for me, it's not about my internet connection costs at all, but rather the stuff D* provides that I cannot get OTT, at least for now.
     
  12. SayWhat?

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    Doesn't PlayOn/PlayLater give you at least some of that?
     
  13. lparsons21

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    It does and supports quite a number of 'channels' with some 3rd party plugins available for others. Playon is the streaming media server and some of the little plug-in boxes for a TV, like Roku, and a number of BluRay players can see and use it.

    Playlater is the recording part of the deal. You can set recordings from the machine it is actually on, and you can use their free apps on iOS, Windows and I assume Android to set them there too.

    And they have an HD add on so you can get it in HD too.

    Pretty darned good combo to get and a free trial of all of it is just a click away...
     
  14. mwdxer

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    I see another service called KLOWDTV on the Roku, an HD 720p+ streaming with a dozen channels. Most are sports though. So everyone is getting into the streaming game.
     
  15. Wilf

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    Depends on where you live. I am in a fairly rural community with 75 down, 5 up internet with no caps - for all practical purposes there are no bandwidth limitations. And up time is near perfect. Now if the telcos and the likes of Comcast would stop buying the politicians everyone could have this kind of service.
     
  16. Stewart Vernon

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    I'm not denying that there can't be some savings... I'm just saying the cost shouldn't be considered as zero.

    If you decide to drop Dish today and move to streaming... you can do that. But once you do that, say you decide you like TV but don't need to browse the internet anymore. You can't cut that cord without losing your TV. Your streaming package is not independent of your internet package. It is a non-bundled bundle, effectively.

    What happens if/when your Internet provider starts enforcing caps that impede your ability to stream as much as you want? OR they raise the prices on your Internet? OR you need your Internet more for other things that make the streaming less fluid because you are downloading/uploading more for other purposes?

    To me... the way things are for the forseeable future... streaming is only an option if you don't watch much TV. For a very casual user of TV, this can work because you aren't using much of your time or bandwidth on the TV and don't need to pay the bigger payTV bill to have 24/7 and lots more choices.

    But for anyone who watches a lot of TV... there's just no beating the payTV package from satellite or cable for bang-for-buck.
     
  17. Athlon646464

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    I understand your points. Right now, I'm not planning to leave DirecTV, and I don't see a time where that will happen soon.

    However, I would say that at present I stream my TV viewing about 1/3 of the time. That's a lot more than I did just a year ago, and many times more than 2 years ago. I can only hope my ISP doesn't start to cap us.....
     
  18. Stewart Vernon

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    I'm a supplemental streamer... If I miss a show, and can stream it online for free via Dish Online or the network's Web site then I'll do that to stay current. I don't subscribe to Netflix or anything like that. I did used to have access to Amazon Prime when I was with my father and he had the Prime membership. Truth be told, I partook more of the free Prime shipping and he was the one that liked the streaming movies.

    I don't hate streaming, it just isn't my first choice.
     
  19. sregener

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    For right now, for me, the cost would be considered zero. You raise good points about "what ifs" but the future is always uncertain. And it's not like you're signing up for a 2-year contract with SlingTV. If things change, they change, and you make a new value calculation based on what is available then.

    If I have bandwidth to my home that I am not using currently because I have a need for HSI for other purposes, the additional cost of streaming is zero. If I have no need for HSI except for streaming, the cost is 100%. Everyone's situation is different, so everyone's value calculation is different. That was kind of the point behind Mises' epic work, "Human Action."
     
  20. damondlt

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    You need less than 10 mbps for HD quality streaming.
    You need only 25mbps for 4K HD.
    So yes your 65 mbps is way more than needed and way higher than millions people are even offered.
    I get 15d,2up and with a bundled pack it's still 52.95,
    67.95 if I was to subscribe to satellite or decided to be a cord cutter.
     

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