Slow-motion Is A Disgrace!

Discussion in 'DIRECTV HD DVR/Receiver Discussion' started by furjaw, Jan 31, 2008.

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  1. RunnerFL

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    Same here, I do that all the time.
     
  2. reggie

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    Same here. Used it once and realized it was not usable.
     
  3. Blitz68

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    Why not go back to Time warner if they are so great?
     
  4. richlife

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    Let's not argue about a passing comment. The problem is that the HR20/21 Slo-Mo sucks. During the height of my sports seasons, I realized that not only is it an irritating (and stupid) implementation, but also that I have literally lost one of my most valued functions. I just don't use it because 1) the press and hold is the pits and doesn't work and 2) the "slow motion" isn't slow enough to help me see how a play developed or to analyze what happened.

    As many have said, this is a long-time (day one), oft criticized problem which can be easily resolved (maybe no 5 minutes, but definitely not 500 hours!). I don't understand the refusal of DirecTV to fix this -- nor do I understand why this isn't considered the number one problem on these boxes. Forget MRV, DLB or any of these others until the Slo-Mo is fixed.
     
  5. McCoyRJ

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    Maybe they don't know how. The DTV equipment coming out today seems to be so unreliable compared to other equipment I've had. Splitting with TIVO seems to have put them in over their heads. My old R10DVR worked flawlessly, TIVO really knows what they're doing.

    I've been a subscriber to Time-Warner and DISH in the past, but I didn't have DVR equipment. However, I don't hear the complaints from friends who are TW and DISH subscribers about the equipment provided like I do from DTV users. If it weren't for the content provided by DTV, I'm sure a lot of people would "Go Back", a term some of you on here think is so clever.
     
  6. wagman

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    Two words: Jog Wheel

    I mean the thing is a computer with digital video and audio content. What is the industry standard for editing digital content? A jog wheel. It lets you go at the speed you want and it will let you very easily bounce between frames.

    Put one of these on the standard DVR remote and you want need to worry about buttons for various speeds and such.

    Jog Wheel baby! jog wheel
     
  7. Maruuk

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    For sports fans, the slo-mo is so poorly implemented as to be non-existent. It's a complete joke and obviously designed by someone who never watched sports in their entire life. I had vastly better slo-mo on my 1982 Sanyo VCR! D* needs to fix this one way or another asap.
     
  8. braven

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    That's exactly what I do. I like it the way it is.
     
  9. richlife

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    I agree -- I also check status by pressing play. We need a better method than press and hold. I would be statisfied with double-click on Play. A single click shows status which clears quickly. A double click goes to slo-mo NOW.
     
  10. Stuart Sweet

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    Perhaps developing a true home theatre remote is in order. I don't know if MPEG-4 compression lends itself well to variable speed slo-mo, but perhaps if it does then a jog wheel could work.
     
  11. DrummerBoy523

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    was this reply necessary? The guy has a legitimate beef and never threatened to leave D*. Your reply is out of line IMO. If you have nothing of value to add to the conversation then IMO you should just move on.
     
  12. davido

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    How about using the select and left & right buttons.

    Press select, slo-mo begins, Press it again, plays normal speed.

    Once in slo-mo, use the left & right keys to modify the speed. Press left to go slower (eventually to freeze, then reverse slo-mo, if possible) and right to go faster (eventually to normal).
     
  13. McCoyRJ

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    Same here - I check the status of a program with the play button numerous times during a single viewing. Don't mess with that. :)
     
  14. cartrivision

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    Here is a clue for the design team.... if you can't transition directly from a pause/freeze frame state into the slo-mo state, you have implemented the function incorrectly.
     
  15. InterMurph

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    I read this thread yesterday and learned that my HR20 has a slow-motion feature. I was unable to discover this on my own, despite 25+ years of remote-control ownership, and 10+ years of TiVo ownership.

    So I tried it during the Super Bowl yesterday, and I will say two things:

    1) I dislike very much that I have to press-and-hold the Play button; a separate slow button (as on my TiVo) would be much better. However, since there is no such button, and since DirecTV can't simply switch the meaning of existing buttons without confusing and frustrating customers who have grown accustomed to their curring meanings, I think that's the end of that discussion.

    2) Once I got slow-motion engaged, it looked fantastic. Much better than it ever did on my TiVo (HR10-250). Fantastic.
     
  16. richlife

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    Very good point -- the ability to slo-mo after a pause is a must. That means a one button slo-mo implementation that works immediately (no press and hold).
     
  17. Blitz68

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    You move on. I can say what I feel. I am tired of whinners you must be one also.
     
  18. parzec

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    You tell people to "Go Back" if they don't like a feature on the DVR, yet you get so easily offended when some one asks you to "Move On" if you are not contributing to the thread. The poster must not have realized you were such a sensitive individual.
     
  19. cartrivision

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    It could be press and hold on the (>>) button while in a pause state. That way the press and hold action would do one frame advance and then transition into slow-mo, but I think press and hold for any function is horrible UI design, so I would prefer something like the (>|) button being slow-mo if in a pause state.
     
  20. shoeheel

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    And please lose the banner during slow motion/freeze frame!

    It is just in the way, especially during baseball season, when I'm trying to review a close play at first base, etc.
     
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