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Sluggish HD-DVR's

Discussion in 'DIRECTV HD DVR/Receiver Discussion' started by Manctech, Nov 18, 2010.

  1. tkrandall

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    Sometimes the HR20-700 can be sluggish, other times not at all. I few weeks ago I did the red red blue blue yellow green thing and it has been overall better. Whether that is related or not I don't know. I also now have a SWM setup with MRV as of a few weeks ago, so that aspect in my setup has also changed.

    I meant to ask earlier - what info (and what is the related functionality) is stored in the NVRAM?
     
  2. TomCat

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    Sounds like unnecessary superstitious behavior. I use the Active button every day to check the weather, and it has never ever been problematic. Programs play just fine immediately after.

    I also don't think DTV is dumb enough to shoot itself in the foot by adding features that break reliability or performance. Well, sure, they may ship things a bit too early and fine tune them after the fact, but that's the world everybody lives in now. ;)
     
  3. Richierich

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    +1. USELESS and Slow To Load!!!
     
  4. Mike Greer

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    Seriously? Seems like with every 'update' comes the 'stepdown' in performance.
     
  5. Richierich

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    I have seen several NRs come out that caused me and others problems when we had none before the NR Download.

    I have seen Directv take away the Selectable UPL when we had it and it worked Great.

    I don't have alot of faith that Directv does everything in a sensible and Smart way.

    They also took away our "Yellow Button" for the ToDo List and replaced it with another useless function.

    Several people have said that The Active Button and DP slow down the Processor but maybe they have tweaked it since then and it is working better so I may try it again.
     
  6. Joe C

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    Does anyone know the answer to this ? I have cleared the memory on both my boxes(on the date I posted above) and they are back to being unresponsive again.
     
  7. Rich

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    I never use the Active feature for anything. For weather, the Weather Bug gives much more comprehensive info.

    Oh, I think they're capable of screwing things up royally. They don't seem to care about the consequences of their actions very much. Just my opinion.

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  8. Rich

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    I don't have slow HRs, but I did try it and didn't see any difference at all. Enjoyed doing it, tho. :)

    Rich
     
  9. Rich

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    Joe, here's a question for you: Why aren't my HRs exhibiting slowness issues? I don't understand why so many others report the same issues as you do and I don't see them. I do have issues with MRV when I use the HRs in the All mode, but aside from that, they all seem to be working as fast as they ever were.

    Rich
     
  10. Richierich

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    You may have a Marginal Power Supply unit which fails to provide the Optimal Amount of Current to the Hard Drive and Processor and needs to be replaced.

    Weaknees.com does this kind of replacement.
     
  11. Rich

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    Is there some kind of test for that? I've looked at various power supplies and they don't look too hard to replace. Hard to say for sure without doing it, tho.

    Rich
     
  12. Richierich

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    It is quite easy from what I have heard from those who have done it and just requires a little soldering. The unit only doesn't cost that much so you can save alot of money doing it yourself and you save your recordings it it is indeed not your hard drive going south.
     
  13. Rich

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    But how do you tell if it's the power supply that's causing the problem? It makes sense to me because I don't have any slowness issues, but before I go thru something like that, I'd like to know for sure if I'm doing the correct thing.

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  14. Richierich

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    Here is a Link to a Post about the Power Supply unit and look at all of the posts by HAYREASS as he is the one who knows how to test it for sub-marginal amperage output.

    http://www.dealdatabase.com/forum/showthread.php?t=41440

    Here is one of his Posts about adjusting the trimpot to increase voltage or amperage.

    "Well, what do you know, I tried on another system today, and the trimpot is working on it.
    A buddy sent me a system I fixed for him a year or so ago to fix a bad drive.
    When I opened it up, I saw it had the mod done to it.
    Since I wanted to pull the PS in order to test the other 2 I am selling, I figured I'd experiment.
    I cut the wire, and booted it up. It booted fine, I figured it wasn't a bad system. But, 20 minutes later, it went into reboot. So, I tweaked the pot 1/4 turn, bringing me up to 3.32v at the mobo side of the parlex cable.
    No more reboot.
    I put in the PS I wanted to test, and bam, reboot loop.
    Tweaked it 1/4 turn, no more loop.
    Looks like in some instances, the trimpot is the way to go.
    I'll definitely try it 1st, since it involves no soldering, but any S1's I'll see from now on are friends, and I've done the jumper fix to all/most of them already."

    Rich, I think you will really enjoy reading this Thread and these Posts as they tell you how a Failing Power Supply unit can cause the DVR to Reboot repeatedly when it loses sufficient power and can lock up on your Reboot Screen, etc.
     
  15. Joe C

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    I wish I knew why mine were so slow. I don't have MRV so I can't comment there. One one of my boxes I have closed captioning enabled and that box is the one I do most of my complaining about, it gets very unrespnsive. I have run every single test during the bootup process and it passes all tests even the advanced hard disk tests. I don't have a phone line or ethernet connected and I don't have SWM. I don't have an external drive hooked up, never did. I'm running out of things to try.
     
  16. Mike Greer

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    I had 3 HR22s and for nearly two years they were nothing but painful to use. People here suggested things like replace the batteries in the remote, push the buttons slower etc... The truth is the only answer that worked for me was to pay $200 each for HR24s (HR24-500 where the only ones available then). One of the my HR22s died (thank god) and the other two I force the kids to use.

    I just got tired of the promises of new firmware fixing them and gave up. Paid way too much but at least I don't have deal with them!
     
  17. Podkayne

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    My HR20-100 is quite a bit slower of late. I've done the reboot and reset procedures and it helps for a while, but after a few days it's bogged down again. I would pay money for a box that was as fast as my old Tivo.
     
  18. Richierich

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    Then buy an HR24 thru Ebay or wherever and be done with it.
     
  19. Rich

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    I'll read it tomorrow, thanx. Be good to know in advance what to do. Altho, I gotta admit, I wouldn't mind if a couple of my HRs went south. Got too many. Bought all those HRs and haven't used one for a replacement. My luck.

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  20. Rich

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    Joe, I read so many posts a day that I can't remember who's got what. Can you refresh my memory and tell me what models of HRs you have? HR2x-xxx would do the trick. I can tell you that I'm not a proponent of blaming HDDs for everything that happens. I think a failed HDD is a rarity. I've had only two in four years that I can truly say went bad. Compare that to constantly having HDDs fail in TiVos.

    Rich
     

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