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Smart Search .. What do you think?

Discussion in 'DIRECTV HD DVR/Receiver Discussion' started by Doug Brott, Sep 7, 2010.

  1. Sep 7, 2010 #1 of 44
    Doug Brott

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    OK, Smart Search has been available for a while now .. What do you think? The good, the bad, whatever .. just make sure you play nice when you post :)
     
  2. Sep 7, 2010 #2 of 44
    johnp37

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    Never use it . No interest in using it either but thats just me.
     
  3. Sep 7, 2010 #3 of 44
    Davenlr

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    Dont use it either. Anything I want, I enter as a Boolean search, or for movies, I just left arrow onto the channel name and hit INFO, and scan through the two weeks of movies on that channel.
     
  4. Sep 7, 2010 #4 of 44
    Doug Brott

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    But that's through Smart Search now? :scrathin

    I'm more interested if there are things that are truly broken .. examples can do wonders.
     
  5. Sep 7, 2010 #5 of 44
    Davenlr

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    Yea, I have to use Smart Search to enter the boolean, but dont actually use the smart part :) i.e. After I enter AALL or AANY, it doesnt bring up anything to bug me.
     
  6. Sep 7, 2010 #6 of 44
    dsw2112

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    Unfortunetely I don't have any recent examples as the wife and I completely stopped using it... We were finding that the search would not return results for shows it should have found (even shows airing the following day.)
     
  7. Sep 7, 2010 #7 of 44
    matt

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    On the rare occasion I search for something, I am always a little annoyed when I use a receiver that doesn't have it, so I guess I like it! :)
     
  8. Sep 7, 2010 #8 of 44
    Go Beavs

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    I haven't had any problems here. It seems to work just fine.

    I'm not much of a 'power' searcher though...
     
  9. Sep 8, 2010 #9 of 44
    rynorama

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    I use the search on a regular basis. I think the smart search works quicker and gives better results on my R22's and HR22
     
  10. spartanstew

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    I don't like it and much prefer the older search, because IMO it was smarter.

    For example, lets say I want to find "Entourage".

    I type in ENTO, and entourage appears as the only show in the list. Now, usually I'm typing letters as I go (looking at the remote) and I glance up and see that entourage is right there so I stop entering text. However, when I stopped entering text, I was actually starting to enter the "u", but instead accidentally enter a "t".

    Now, when I go down one notch to select "entourage", it's no longer there and the only thing present is a keyword search for "entot".

    The old search didn't do that. If the next letter didn't have any matches, the matches below would stay the same and Entourage would still be the first thing in the list.

    IMO, the old search method was "smarter", because it could accurately predict what you were looking for even if you hit the wrong letter occasionally.

    This search is "not as smart", because unless you key it in exactly, it doesn't know what to do and defaults to a keyword search.

    I also liked having keyword searches separately. I always know if I need to search for a title of a show or a keyword, so combining them does me no good.

    If I could somehow go back to the old search, I'd do it in a heartbeat. I've yet to see an advantage to smart search (the way I use it), but it's caused me extra key strokes many, many times.
     
  11. armchair

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    Doug,

    Smart Search had some issues when we first started seeing it but threads like this one helped improve it.

    I haven't had any issues with Smart Search for quite a while so I guess I'm happy with it. Even the Boolean Searched ARSLs are searching, scheduling and recording w/o issue.

    Maybe we need to start another thread to voice some issues with missing episode First Run, Repeat, and missing HD identifier and the frequent "No info is available at this time". Some examples w/b shows I've been recording for my three-year-old, Disney HD misses some HD identifiers on "Mickey Mouse Club House" episodes and Nick Jr. hasn't had any episode info on the series by the name of "Oobi" for a while now. It may be a Tribune thing but I would like them to get their act together, soon. Hopefully, before the Fall season starts.
     
  12. ccr1958

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    don't really search for much...but when i do smart search
    has worked just fine for my use....
     
  13. spartanstew

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    I'll give another example. Lets say I want to do a keyword search for "michigan" to catch shows or sports dealing with that state.

    In the old search, I would select keyword search, enter "Michigan" and basically be done.

    With the "smart search", I enter Michigan and then I have to scroll through 10 pages of information before I can get to the keyword that I wanted. IMO, that's not smarter.
     
  14. paulman182

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    I'm not sure what all is considered part of Smart Search, but one thing I really like is the Filmography section. I use it with almost every movie I watch.

    There's an amazing amount of information now in that STB.
     
  15. say-what

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    All you have to do is type Michigan and press the red button - at the bottom of the results list the "red button" is displayed with the hint "Keyword search for [whatever you type]"
     
  16. wilbur_the_goose

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    Actually, I preferred the old search.

    (PS - I know SQL really well, so I should prefer the new one, but I find it clumsy)
     
  17. Rich

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    I really like it and use it a lot. They got this right!

    Rich
     
  18. afulkerson

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    I might only use smart search once every 5 or 6 months so I guess that I qualify as not using it at all....
     
  19. cartrivision

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    Overall it's pretty good, but there are several improvements needed...


    • Multiple words that are entered should be searched as an "and" search: word1 AAND word2,
      not as a literal single string search "word1 word2" where word2 must follow directly after word1.

    • The various boolean and other search capabilities that now have to be entered as cryptic strings needs a user friendly user GUI interface (at least for some more common complex searches). I shouldn't have to be an msql syntax guru to have to do complex searches such as "comedy movies staring actor xxxxxx" (see any Tivo search GUI for an example of what needs to be done).

    • Multiple showings of the same title (even on different channels) should be initially displayed as a single line in the search result that can be expanded to show all of the showings. Without this improvement, a search result of interest can literally be buried 20 pages down in the search results under hundreds of lines one PPV title showing every half hour (Yes I know that this improvement is already being worked on and tested, and the sooner it gets into the NR the better).
     
  20. dminches

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    Why did I not know that?
     

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