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So, I Bought an iPad, and I'm NOT Happy.

Discussion in 'Tech Talk - Gadgets, Gizmos and Technology' started by Rich, Mar 27, 2011.

  1. Apr 9, 2011 #381 of 406
    raott

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    You answered our own question. There is still content that is flash only. Why limit? With honeycomb, If you don't want it don't install it. Id rather have the choice than have it decided for me.
     
  2. Apr 9, 2011 #382 of 406
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    Wonder if non support is a good enticing factor to cause a developer to improve their product to be better on a mobile device. Thought the issue was power consumption.
     
  3. Apr 9, 2011 #383 of 406
    Steve

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    In the case of Flash, I believe it was (a) Apple's insistence that it was proprietary and (b) not well suited for touchscreen use, since many legacy Flash apps assume a mouse and cursor are available.

    I think Adobe is wise in making HTML 5 output an option via Wallaby, so as not to lose revenue from selling Flash developer tools. I also wouldn't be surprised if they re-christen Flash with a new name, but offer different "save as" options.
     
  4. Apr 9, 2011 #384 of 406
    Sixto

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    yep, good point, that reminds me of the article a few months ago from an expert with the details of the mouse/cursor issues, and benefits of other options.
     
  5. Apr 9, 2011 #385 of 406
    Laxguy

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    +1 on both. Plus to keep the content providers from dumping everything into a Flash container in the absence of any reason whatsoever.
     
  6. Apr 9, 2011 #386 of 406
    Laxguy

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    Good points. The power consumption issue, though, is the one that sticks out for me. It was annoying to have a half dozen Flash-based embedded ads chewing up processor cycles even when plugged in to AC. Worse when it was sucking battery cycles.
     
  7. Apr 9, 2011 #387 of 406
    Chris Blount

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    Good post with common sense.

    Let me see if I can break this down from my own personal perspective.

    Lack of USB: Haven't missed it. The only reason I would use USB is to transfer music and videos to the iPad which I do thru iTunes anyway. As far as files like Word, Excel or Powerpoint docs, I use my MobileMe cloud or simply e-mail the docs to the iPad.

    Memory expansion: I've had the 64GB version of the iPad for the past year. Never filled it up. I have over 5000 pictures loaded with tons of music and a few movies and it still isn't even half full.

    The battery life is also a non-issue as it will last me the entire day even when surfing heavily on 3G. If I want more battery life, I simply get a battery booster easily available from 3rd parties.

    The lack of Flash is also a non issue. There is a browser app called iSwifter that handles Flash sites. Just yesterday I was watching an Amazon Instant Video on the iPad. Handled everything fine.

    So you see, for every shortcoming listed about the iPad as compared to other tablets, its easy to argue the other way. Thanks to 3rd party developers both in software and hardware, that shortcoming list is getting very small.

    BTW, there is a file system on the iPad. You just have to know where to look and which apps utilize the file system. For instance, Apple has a SD card adapter where you can plug in the card and transfer pictures from the card to the iPad. Goodreader is also an app that utilizes the file system by allowing documents to be loaded up and viewed.

    Now you just have to ask yourself, what will you use a tablet for? For me, there I things I DON'T want because if they are added, it will only increase the size and weight of the tablet. If I want to do serious computing, I use my desktop or laptop. For everyday surfing, listening to music or watching video, the tablet is perfect. Some just don't seem to understand the concept that the tablet (at least for now) is a tool that's not meant to replace anything.
     
  8. Apr 9, 2011 #388 of 406
    Steve

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    Found this on the Apple site, and you guys are right. Power consumption is definitely one of the 6 reasons Apple gave for not supporting Flash, along with the two issues I mentioned.

    Looks like they put a lot of thought into the decision not to support Flash.
     
  9. Apr 9, 2011 #389 of 406
    raott

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    Good info Chris, I will check those both out.
     
  10. Apr 9, 2011 #390 of 406
    Sixto

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    hey steve, thanks for the link, great article.
     
  11. Apr 9, 2011 #391 of 406
    Alan Gordon

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    My 16gb is filled up, and I could fill a 64gb very fast... however, with the ability to transfer media back and forth, it's honestly not that big of a deal...

    You made similar comments to me several months ago, and while I'm still glad that I waited on the iPad 2, I'm so glad I didn't wait for whatever better comes along on the iPad 3... :D

    Waiting on a Froyo update for my phone made me realize early on that the lack of Flash really doesn't bother me. I think there are like two sites that I regularly go to that uses Flash, and only one of them even remotely bothers me, and I suspect it's only a matter of time before they make it "iPad friendly."

    I may have to try that one out Chris... thanks! :)

    ~Alan
     
  12. Apr 9, 2011 #392 of 406
    Steve

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    Noticed in this thread a few of you guys store large music libraries on the iPad. Why there, instead of an iPod, iPhone or Droid phone, which I assume you all have as well? Not being critical... just wondering if I'm missing an opportunity I'm not thinking of. TIA.
     
  13. Apr 9, 2011 #393 of 406
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    Since this is a thread about the iPad, I do have a question that I'm afraid I won't like the answer to...

    I have a couple of E-mail accounts set up on my iPad, but my main E-mail address (the one I have with my ISP) is my main one, and I'd LOVE to be able to E-mail back and forth via the iPad without using their website, but I'd really like to keep my E-mail on Windows Live Mail as well for backup purposes. Is there anyway to setup the mail app with a POP3 E-mail account where it leaves the E-mail on the server?

    ~Alan
     
  14. Apr 9, 2011 #394 of 406
    Alan Gordon

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    I don't have an iPod (never could justify the cost considering my listening habits), but I do have a Droid phone, and I have some music there as well... though I admittedly think the iPad has a better sound than my Android phone, my phone is always with me, and my iPad stays at home, so I will most likely listen to my phone more than my iPad. :)

    While I don't have a large music library on my iPad, as I don't really need to due to the reason I mentioned above, and because since my iPad stays at home, if I want to listen to music, there's always Home Sharing... which works great (aside from the fact that I prefer the layout for music stored locally on the iPad compared to the layout for when using Home Sharing).

    As for why I have a deal of music on my iPad, well, I purchased some "American Idol" songs there recently because... well, it was just so easy to do so, as well as for the same reason I have some movies and TV shows on there (free from iTunes, digital copies, etc), and that's that I wanted to try everything out on my iPad. See how it works, what I like, what I don't, make sure everything works good, etc...

    ~Alan
     
  15. Apr 9, 2011 #395 of 406
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    I use Widows Live Mail with my desktop, laptop and my iPhone and there is a setting, at least with AT&T anyway, where I can specify the number of days they will keep my mail on the server.
     
  16. Apr 9, 2011 #396 of 406
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    I believe what you are looking for is under advanced options for the email account--> Delete from server --> Never
     
  17. Apr 9, 2011 #397 of 406
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    Why, sointently! You just said the magic woid and won a hunnerd dollahs....
    </Groucho>

    My Comcast account is POP and that's the way it was set up on the iPhone and iPad till I realized I hated deleting things three times, and my Comcast account was my main non-critical account (receiving its share of semi-spam). So with that, I set up a G-mail account via IMAP, and have my Comcast e-mail forwarded to the gmail account, also retaining the stuff on Comcast instead of deleting it from the server. (Until I delete it locally).
    Couple of ways to go there!
     
  18. Apr 9, 2011 #398 of 406
    Alan Gordon

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    I see an option on Windows Live Mail (hey davring... is Widows Live Mail some sort of dating site? :D ) to keep on the server for up to 100 days (don't see an option for never), but I want to know about the iPad, and I don't see that option anywhere in the settings. :(

    ~Alan
     
  19. Apr 9, 2011 #399 of 406
    Steve

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    Agree. I would think the tablet form factor is not very convenient to fire-up and use with headphones for general music listening. That's why I'm curious about why you might store a lot on there. I thought might be a way, similar to the promise of Airplay, where folks might be streaming music from the iPad's to their home audio receivers I didn't know about.
     
  20. Apr 9, 2011 #400 of 406
    Laxguy

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    When you go to set up, choose POP account. It may be that mail is left on the server by default- I tried to set up a hypothetical account to test, but it wanted to connect to a real server.

    I myself prefer IMAP, so you can delete in one place and not see it on your other devices. But you can have both!

    Good luck!
     

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