So, is anyone happy with the HR20?

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  1. Jan 2, 2007 #81 of 109
    bonscott87

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    When you are editing a series link, click the menu button and you can setup all the defaults for all new series links that you set from that point on.
     
  2. Jan 2, 2007 #82 of 109
    liltalkm

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    Awesome!!

    Thanks bonscott87


    Later
     
  3. Jan 2, 2007 #83 of 109
    toy4two

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    I'm just happy its finally out. I'd rather have what I have now with a few bugs, then nothing. At least they finally got it out. You have people moaning when it keeps getting delayed, and then people moan when its out prematurely. If I can put up with HD Lite I can live with a few annoyances provided the future is brighter (MPEG 4 national HD).
     
  4. Jan 2, 2007 #84 of 109
    Radiation Vibe

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    I have had mine for 3 months, only 2 lock-ups and no missed recordings. I do miss the TIVO interface though.
     
  5. Jan 2, 2007 #85 of 109
    Spazzman

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    I am not happy.

    I am on my third unit. Two hard drive failures.

    My third unit has BSOD issue and is unreliable.
     
  6. Jan 3, 2007 #86 of 109
    jedster

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    Yes, someone is happy with the HR-20. What a stupid question.

    Clearly, all of D*'s competitors are thrilled. It may be sold out everywhere, but just about anyone with a clue who uses it realizes what a piece of crap it is. Even when it is working well (which it doesn't always do) it has a clunky UI and it is noisy as hell.
     
  7. Jan 3, 2007 #87 of 109
    Wolffpack

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    So jedster, just courious, which are you more happy with....your 3 HR20s' or your 2 HR10s?
     
  8. Jan 3, 2007 #88 of 109
    jedster

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    that's a dated signature i need to update it. anyway, i've turned off my hr10s and no longer use the hr20s as dvrs; i use their s-video out to my htpc for cable channels (they do very good SD, much better than HR10). then i use a vbox atsc tuner for OTA. works much much better than HR20s. On Sundays I actually use the MPEG2 HD from the HR20s for NFLST which is awesome, except the day when the HR20 hooked up to the tv decided to crash at opening kickoff.

    i am likely to switch to h20s for my htpc as they are much quieter than the hr20s unless i can figure out how to open up the box and put a quieter hard drive in there (or remove the HD entirely and just enclose it in a scythe enclosure).

    i can't wait until D* releases its tuner card for vista. i hope they have reasonable DRM restrictions (like HD content can only be watched on a PC with a D* card and active subscription). if they use the cablecard model (which will break your right to watch recorded content if you are forced to reinstall windows on the same PC) then i'll be SOL.

    anyway, short story long, media center is light years ahead of D* when it comes to interface. and it's much more stable.
     
  9. Jan 3, 2007 #89 of 109
    jfolliard

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    sorry to disappoint you but I'm very happy with my HR20 - have had it for 3 months now - no problems at all. :)
     
  10. Jan 3, 2007 #90 of 109
    garypen

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    What is the problem with the closed captioning? That could be a deal breaker for me. It is an important feature in my household.
     
  11. Jan 3, 2007 #91 of 109
    jedster

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    That's good; it actually reminds me that I've begun to wonder if the problems withe HR20 are more hardware than software. I can't think of another reason why some people have a good experience and others have bad experiences. It's the same software and same programming source on each box; it's only the hardware that is different.

    Anyway, I'm very happy for you that you enjoy your HR20. It's not for me, and clearly a lot of people have had a lot of problems with it. Count your blessings!
     
  12. Jan 3, 2007 #92 of 109
    mrshermanoaks

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    I was 95% happy with mine a few weeks ago. Now it's bordering on being returned with service cancelled. Tonight mine is in rare form, going no more than 15-20 minutes at a stretch without doing something really annoying - audio/video dropping out, recording unwatchable, locked up on pause/instant replay/etc.

    I'd reboot it on a more regular basis, but I find it maddening having only 12 hours of program guide to work with as the "spring season" approaches.
     
  13. Jan 3, 2007 #93 of 109
    hasan

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    Here are the reasons its much more likely software/firmware than hardware:

    It may be HOW YOU USE your HR20 that is causing problems and that has NOTHING to do with hardware. How many computer programs have you used wherein a certain combination of keystrokes cause the program to crash or the OS to freeze? Think of the HR20 the same way. We do have the same box, but we interact with it in hundreds, if not thousands of ways. That is why we have such a variation in bug experience. Once you have experienced a freeze it is possible, if not likely, you have written a corrupt file to the hard drive...more problems to follow!

    IT IS NOT the hardware that's different...the hardware isn't different, and real hardware failures (other than hard drives) appear to be rare. Software (even UPDATE) generated failures are obvious...the latest upgrade has produced a dramatic increase in black screen failures...do you really think everyone's hardware went bad at the same time?

    In addition, some people have different I/O ports in use:

    HDMI (known to be a cause of a variety of problems)
    Ethernet (known to cause some reboot problems)

    So, please stop saying we have the same software therefore it's hardware....it's just as silly to say we have the same hardware, therefore it's just the software. The problem is INTERACTION. The hardware does NOT appear to be outright failing or causing failures. The software has BUGS and those bugs MANIFEST in at least two ways:

    1. They show up right after an upgrade with increasing frequency and severity.


    2. They show up more slowly as a result of HOW THE USER INTERACTS with the HR20. What features they use, when they use them, in what combination, etc., etc., ad nauseum.

    This is why it is hard to fix things wrong in the HR20, (and why we have to stop looking for one-stop shopping explanations).

    We need the conditions wherein the bug manifests identified. Speculation on whether it is hardware or software won't help a bit.

    When does it happen. How is the HR20 configured. What was the activity immediately prior to the malfunction. These are DETAILED requirements for troubleshooting. Failing to provide them gives hints at what might be wrong, but also leads people down nearly an infiinite number of blind alleys because so much critical information that may affect whether the bug appears or not is left out.

    Anyone who thinks finding and fixing bugs on this box is easy doesn't have a clue.
     
  14. Jan 3, 2007 #94 of 109
    Spazzman

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    I have a feeling that you will. And I sincerely hope you are paying for the D* protection plan. You will be SOL otherwise.
     
  15. Jan 3, 2007 #95 of 109
    Andrew_J_M

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    I'm very happy with mine - I don't have ST nor do I watch sports at all but I use OTA a lot, record MPEG4 and MPEG2 channels and last night played back all 600+ 2MB jpeg photos from my vacation while playing mp3 audio. Not a glitch. It is not as slick as the hacked XBox but is still very usable.

    As Bluesman will be new to DVRs with no preconceptions as to how it should work, I would say go for it.
     
  16. Jan 3, 2007 #96 of 109
    hdtvfan0001

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    Every party has a pooper..... :D
     
  17. Jan 3, 2007 #97 of 109
    Tom Robertson

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    My wish for everyone (aside from true world peace) is that everyone gets a stable system VERY soon and that it stays stable for a very long time.

    I don't wish anyone experience the problems I've had; I thank those who have sympathized with my problems without directly experiencing them; and I thank Directv for working hard to fix the problems. I've been fairly good since 0xFA.

    Cheers,
    Tom
     
  18. Jan 3, 2007 #98 of 109
    islesfan

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    The HR20 will become as reliable as a TiVo just in time to record the Islanders v. Blues in the Stanley Cup Final!:D :D :D
     
  19. Jan 3, 2007 #99 of 109
    islesfan

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    I think that if I had the HR20 with 0x10b, and all I wanted was to watch Lost every week, I would have "no problems" as well. The problem occurs with different usage. In my case, I primarily have D* for NHL Center Ice, so for me, this unit is not ready for release. It has gotten MUCH better, but without autorecord features, the HR20 is no more than a glorified receiver. For others, trick play is essential, and it is very unstable. So, it all depends on what you use it for...
     
  20. Jan 3, 2007 #100 of 109
    jedster

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    very nice post well thought out. i have no idea if you are right, but you very well might be. i certainly have no idea what it is. the bug rate with the HR20 is quite spooky. I will say that I have 3 of them. A few months ago, I was using all of them in different rooms, mostly recording the same stuff (faux MRV). Each box at different times would have different problems. Ture, they were hooked up to different TVs (a westinghouse and 2 different sonys.)

    But you are right. It is obviousy hard to figure out what thebugs are and where they come from. But it is easy to see there are a lot of them, at least for some people.

    Given that I have no idea why that is the case, I'm happy to report that I have basically given up on the HR20 except for recording premium HD, which it does pretty well. (I've only been forced to reboot once in the last month or so. WOo hoo!)



     
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