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So Tired Of The Price Game!

Discussion in 'DIRECTV General Discussion' started by CallMeCoach, Jan 29, 2013.

  1. lparsons21

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    Which show would be only fifty cents on iTunes? I sure haven't seen any. More like $2-$3 per episode.
     
  2. Cyber36

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    Ok kids, let's try a little experiment(ala Beakman). Those of you who want a-la-carte programming, call your provider right now & cancel your account. Tell them the only way you'll be back is if they offer that. Let's see how long it takes for them to implement it. I'm guessing they won't even bat an eye till the number reaches 8 million.........
     
  3. veryoldschool

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    Never used iTunes, so that was just a wag, but your $2-3 per show just proves the point.
     
  4. PCampbell

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    People like to vent more than take action.
     
  5. Justin23

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    Less profits = Charge more for channels

    ^ That is why it won't work.
     
  6. lparsons21

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    It does, doesn't it!

    The problem is that if we all went IPTV today and cancelled our subscriptions, then could the content makers provide the same shows at even that price on an individual basis?

    I don't think so. I think we'd then see those IPTV subscriptions and show rental fees skyrocket as something has to pay the production costs and allow for profit to the content makers.

    The reason IPTV is even as good as it is today is because we as subscribers to pay tv are subsidizing the content costs.
     
  7. billsharpe

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    I agree that a la carte will be very difficult to introduce. The suppliers don't like it and it would further complicate the cable and satellite providers bills, although these bills are already pretty complicated. But to say it hasn't worked seems incorrect. Where has it been tried?

    Bill
     
  8. tonyd79

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    Hmm. So you are seeing why it doesn't happen. Because in a free market, companies have a say in the business exchange.

    So, this freight train you and others are claiming (that a la carte is coming) is based purely on total rejection by consumers of the current PRICING (not the model; they have embraced the model; it is the pricing they have issue with). In other words, fantasy. "Come the revolution!"
     
  9. tonyd79

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    BUD.

    And it failed. Once feeds became scrambled and you needed to buy the rights, the channels defaulted to brokers who saw no value in doing channel by channel and went more and more to bundles with the largest savings (price per channel) being on the biggest bundle.

    Administrative costs alone doomed a la carte in the BUD realm. And that was a small market place. Imagine the administrative costs for millions and millions of customers.
     
  10. tonyd79

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    Let's look at movies a la carte.

    A movie in a theater costs around ten bucks, but that gives you the movie theater experience.

    A PPV costs around 6 (?) bucks. That is a la carte. Even old movies cost $3 to $4 bucks.

    But HBO, with several channels, showing lots of movies costs $12-$15 a month. And you can watch them over and over and even keep them on a DVR or download them on demand. (There are hundreds of movies available on HBO on demand, so you get access to them at pennies per.)

    If you watch 4 movies a month, the theater costs you $40. The PPV costs you $12 to $24, depending on the age of the movie. But HBO costs you $12-$15 for those plus hundreds more.
     
  11. pdxBeav

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    I don't believe I ever claimed a la carte was coming. And if I did I know it'll be a long time and won't be easy. The ONLY point I'm arguing is that IF we had a la carte for whatever reason (govt. mandate, distributor revolt, etc), that the TV industry wouldn't die like most people here are claiming. Sure, it might not be the same, but people and companies would adapt to the new model and figure out how to make money. Companies have had to adapt and change throughout the history of business. Some companies adapt, some don't. And new companies spring up to take advantage of an opportunity. That's it, nothing more and nothing less.
     
  12. CallMeCoach

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    Dear God, I was just going to ignore this thread and let it die, but Hoosier seems bent on making me show the prices on my bills. So be it. So, here goes. I hope you will atleast shut up when I'm done posting the prices.

    I'll give you 4 months here and show what I mean. Mind you, I added nothing during this time.


    August: $152

    This was because of an early NFL ticket option I clearly didn't want and called to tell them so and they took it off of my bill, which brought it down to $97.99. More than the $86 i was to be paying for my Plus HD DVR service.

    Sept: $93

    It was now $5 less for some odd reason, but it still wasn't what I was sup to be paying.

    Oct: $94

    Okay, now it's $1 more than it was the month before. Again, no idea why the fees/price changed on me for no reason.

    Nov: $86

    Finally after calling and threatening to leave things magically came to the price I expected. $82.99 plus taxes.


    Now, I don't have the time to go through and post every single fee from every month, but these are the bills I was charged in said months. Other than the mistake on the NFL ticket, they're not huge differences, but there are differences and it's beyond annoying. There are other months where things I didn't know about ended like an extra HD package of channels I didn't want and things of that sort, but this gets the point across.


    By the way, I am no longer a DTV customer. I'm over it, and Hoosier convinced me it his undying love for DTV. I hope you enjoy paying for crap you don't want, I cut the cord!



    PS

    This whole, "a la carte won't ever work!" argument is the same thing people were saying about the music industry: "It's so much cheaper paying $12 for a Cd than it would be to buy them individually." Well guess what, the internet changed music just like it's going to change TV. You now pay $1.29 per song for most songs on iTunes and it costs more than buying the CD as a whole. It took a while, but it happened, just like it will happen here. And obviously people don't care about paying a little more. If they do care about it, they just steal the MP3's on a file sharing price. The same is happening with TV online. You guys can stay blind as long as you want, but in the end just like the music industry, TV will follow suit.
     
  13. veryoldschool

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    Not to disagree, and more to just vent about HBO, but if there was an a la carte for their offerings, I'd jump on it in a NY min. I'm currently in a void for a couple of months with little to nothing worth watching on HBO. I'm sure others may find things worth watching, but I'm at a loss.
     
  14. veryoldschool

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    !rolling
     
  15. CallMeCoach

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    And to top that - HBO is not an equivalent for the theater or PPV. You don't get to choose what's on those premium movie channels, you have to watch what they choose to play. That's the whole point of a la carte, choice. You pay for only what you want.

    The few times I've had HBO it was a complete waste of money on the movie side. I rarely ever found anything I really wanted to watch. And that's nothing like the experience of a movie theater - people are willing to pay extra to go to a theater to watch a movie. A.0 It's exactly what they want B.) The screen, sound, and atmosphere are what draws people in.
     
  16. CallMeCoach

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  17. veryoldschool

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    Yeah there's nothing like the kid behind you screaming, your seat being kicked, or the person in front blocking your view. :lol:
     
  18. CallMeCoach

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    Stop going to see teen movies or animation, you're very old! :lol: :lol: :lol:
     
  19. tonyd79

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    Fair enough.

    But also, nobody is saying it will die. They are saying that fewer programs would get created and that the range of those programs would narrow.

    If you don't want anyone to misstate your position, don't misstate theirs.
     
  20. FLWingNut

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    If I'm watching a movie I prefer at home on my big screen. With captions to make following dialog easier. The ability to pause and use the restroom whenever I need to and if someone doesn't understand what just happened we can talk about it without worrying about disturbing someone else.
     

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