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Software Update: HR20 - 0xD1

Discussion in 'DIRECTV HD DVR/Receiver Discussion' started by Earl Bonovich, Sep 27, 2006.

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  1. Oct 1, 2006 #301 of 475
    jelia

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    Ok the following is me reading this site non stop while debbuging this turd
    so far most of the issues seemed to be solved except the 30 second fake skip which I hate, why do i need to be annoyed by commercial that are 1xFF instead of not seen them at all. also still dont have my AT9 since installer refused to out it on side of house. also on best freind TV HR10 vs HR20 had twice as good picture on the HR10 so he kick the turd20 to hid bedroom for the wife.

    so summing it up system isnt so bad , most bugs are getting fixed at least for me and its more about how to use it and config it then anything else. now just left to make sure that my $300 + 2 year contract will go as far as possible while getting the Free AT9 when I do need it.


    HR-20 Issues

    1. 30 sec skip is just FFx1 for 30 second :<
    2. pink backround shows about half the time on FF, RR, Play ... as a square backround
    3. HD channels when showing a SD show in 3:4 modes have rainbow colored effect framing it between the black
    pillar box area and the show.
    4. remote DVR keys stop working sometimes and only by changing channels (up/down) works again
    5. HR10 gives double quality of picture on all things that have fast movement
    6. Using DVI in for HR20 looks exacly the same as the component
    7. on recorded shows in the 1st 2nd minutes screen goes black then show is restarted(more likely local
    issue)
    8.


    Things I Wish will be added:
    1. DUal live buffer (solution exists)
    2. DTV part of remote can control volume on my AV and not the TV only (solution exists)
    (makes more sense as people with HD systems listen to audio from Recievers and not from stero crap speakers)
    3. in trickplay the ability to just in 10-15 mins jumps (solution exists)
    4. OTA so I can see WB and UPN in HD

    Questions:
    1. Do we need to use the 2 B-band filters that came with the HR-20 box, although the HR-20 has a FTM built-
    in.
    2. the AT9 dish has 6 outputs but only 4 been used by installes as they say there is now a built-in
    multiplextor that saves on 2 wires in the install and thus not connecting 6 wires anymore to the 6x8 switch.
    3. what does the Red buttom really resets?
    4. did anyone receive a HDMI cable in the HR20 box I had none and the installer sold me one , wondering if he took it out and made me pay for it.

    Comments:
    1. HR-20 is very similar to my old "Ultimate TV" DVR which always been my favorite
    2. all DD5.1 channels show as DTS on receiver also on another setup with a $5000 denon

    Current setup
    Panasonic 50" Plasma TH-50PH9UK
    HR20-700 (set on 1080i stretch constant)
    SD Tivo
    Sony AV receiver
    NYC area

    Tips and Tricks:

    Try this once! It works great!!!
    1.) Tune to channel A (live buffer of 90 min)
    2.) Use quick guide to record desired channel B (unlimited buffer)
    3.) Start playback of channel B recording
    4.) Press prev. button - will autopause and take you INSTANTLY back to live tv channel A
    5.) Press prev. button again and you will go back to recording INSTANTLY (channel B will auto play
    from where you had left off)
    You can toggle the prev. button to repeat the tuner switch endlessly.

    While watching a recorded program you can add index points called bookmarks.
    To add a bookmark while the show is playing you press PAUSE-GREEN-PAUSE
    (The second pause is optional and will simpy restart play)

    Trickplay large jumps
    * To jump to end of recording, press and hold FF
    * To jump to beginnig of recording, press and hold REW
    * To jump to next "tick" on the timeline, press and hold "Skip FWD" (button above FF)
    * To jump to previous "tick", press and hold "Skip Back" (button above REW)

    Dimming the LED lights
    Just hold the left and right arrows down at the same time on the front pannel
    Normal -> 100% Brightness
    1 Press -> 99% Brightness
    2 Presses -> 98% Brightness
    3 Presses -> 97% Brightness
    4 Presses -> OFF

    Slow Motion
    Hold the play button down three seconds for slo-mo. Hit pause then the FF button repeatedly for frame by frame.
     
  2. Oct 1, 2006 #302 of 475
    Jeremy W

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    I don't buy that. You're either lying, or there was something wrong with the way the HR20 was hooked up. The HR20 is widely regarded as having either the same or better PQ compared to the HR10.
     
  3. Oct 1, 2006 #303 of 475
    litzdog911

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    1. Yes, be sure to install the B-band converters at your HR20's satellite inputs. While not specifically required today, they will be required as new satellites and new channels are added during 2007.

    2. The AT9 dish actually only as four outputs. Those four outputs should connect to the four main satellite inputs on the Zinwell WB68 multiswitch. The other two "Flexport" inputs on the Zinwell multiswitch are for folks who get their local SD channels from the 72.5-deg W satellite, and/or subscribe to international channels beamed from the 95-deg W satellite.

    3. The red button essentially reboots your DVR, similar to pulling the plug.

    4. HDMI cable is not included with the HR20.
     
  4. Oct 1, 2006 #304 of 475
    litzdog911

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    Agreed. I still have both connected to component video inputs on my HDTV. The HR20 HD DVR's video is slightly better than the HR10-250.
     
  5. Oct 1, 2006 #305 of 475
    Monty23

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    I have both the HR20 and the HR10 hooked up. Can't tell difference in video quality with either. If using HDMI connection the video is slightly sharper than component.
     
  6. Oct 1, 2006 #306 of 475
    jelia

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    well my best friend tested the HR10 vs the HR20 on
    his panasonic TH-50PH9UK denon AVR-5805, AT9.
    I have the HR20 with 3 lnb dish and get decent picture, however for him on the HR20 only he gets pixelated motion affect on fast movement and none on the HR10, I will try to go to his house and see if I can remedy it or see the same problem that he does.
    and wow this is my 1st post here you guys are fast. I only hope that the next SW update will give us True 30 seconds skip.
     
  7. Oct 1, 2006 #307 of 475
    dark0ps

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    Since the 0xD1 update on 27SEP2006:0213hrs I've experienced SD/HD:
    - Pixelated playback: looks like signal loss/rain fade, but when I rewind and play again it looks fine [over thirty times].
    - Picture freeze: playback freezes, must FF/RR to view playback [over twenty times].
    - DVR freeze: entire unit 'locks up' remote is non-functional, only cure is to use reset button or cycle power [five times].


    Called tech-support, they're sending out a new unit - based on what I'm reading it's not going to help. Really missing Tivo.
     
  8. Oct 1, 2006 #308 of 475
    jelia

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    I think most freezes hickups are do to local brodcast and then D* cheap conversion, so far most things seemed to be fixed by changing channel and or FF the show a bit or restarting it. I'm a Beta tester for MS for many years and other companies and Only had this device for few days, however within 48 hours I got my 20 questions solved and rest is up to the brodcast to get better in time and I think this receiver has great potential we just need to wait a bit.
     
  9. Oct 1, 2006 #309 of 475
    Jeremy W

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    That will never happen.
     
  10. Oct 1, 2006 #310 of 475
    bonscott87

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    1. This isn't a bug or an issue. It's just the way it is. It's much faster then 1x for me by the way. If you don't like it that's fine, but it's no bug.
    3. Never seen or heard that one before.
    5. Something wrong with your connection then as stated above, the HR20 has better PQ across the board then the HR10.
    6. Not sure why you list this as an issue. DVI/HDMI really isn't "better" then component. Vast majority of people notice no difference between the two (with either DVD players or sat receivers).
    7. I think you're right, this may be an MPEG4 locals issue.
     
  11. Oct 1, 2006 #311 of 475
    mikeny

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    Not a big deal but:

    I was trying to watch an mpeg-4 hd recording (while it was still recording).

    2 times I exited the recording, and when I restarted it, it started from the beginning.

    Good thing skip to tick worked because it was a baseball game and it was taking forever to get back to last spot.
     
  12. Oct 1, 2006 #312 of 475
    mikeny

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    Here's another:

    I just exited a recording I was playing back. I just flipping through some channels and 4 channel switches later it brought up the last frame of another recording I had exited briefly. I thought that was interesting.
     
  13. Oct 1, 2006 #313 of 475
    Vinny

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    I was having the same problem, Mike; but I think I figured it out. Once you get very close to real time; its as if you arent watching the recording anymore....so when you go back, it starts from the beginning. I was watching Yankees and Jets. I recorded Jets and was going back to Yankees. Whenever I got close to real time, I skipped back a couple of times, then went back.

    That worked every time.
     
  14. Oct 1, 2006 #314 of 475
    mikeny

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    Thanks for the tip, Vinny. I guess the magic question is how far away from real time should you be before exit out?
     
  15. Oct 1, 2006 #315 of 475
    Vinny

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    I tried to stay about a minute away from live.
     
  16. Oct 1, 2006 #316 of 475
    jelia

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    well the real time buffer seems to have many intersting features I was watching supervolcano in DiscHD from 1pm-3pm and paused it from 2pm until 5:20pm but pressed record too on the show, so somehow with the record and the live tv when I finished the movie I had in live TV buffer the 2 shows after that from 3-4 and 4-5pm in live buffer to view. so maybe live buffer can be stretched longer then 90mins in this device for virtual recording into the HD w/o setting a record.

    *might be useful in game day for very long buffer delays
    will try to reproduce it , might be just a glitch.
     
  17. Oct 1, 2006 #317 of 475
    PoitNarf

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    Just before I was channel surfing in the guide and then the box locked up. Wouldn't respond to any commands from the remote. Tried for about a minute to get it to respond with no luck, so then I got up to hit the reset button but it started responding again before I got to the reset button. No recordings were going on at the time.
     
  18. Oct 1, 2006 #318 of 475
    gonzlobo

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    That's fuuny.

    Good tip, btw.
     
  19. Oct 1, 2006 #319 of 475
    jelia

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    all of my tips on that post are compiled from this thread for those who arent reading every post , so credit due to dbstalk members.

    and if anyone figures how to get an advance config menu in this machine from an engineer that would be cool.
    *Also want to add direct TV gives this machine free (w/o contract) to people based on programing and location they live in (better upscale neighborhoods)
    like my freind got everything free in long island and my crappy NJ area they told me to F off.
     
  20. Oct 1, 2006 #320 of 475
    tstarn

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    Is there any way to "loosen" a recorded show/game/movie that, when you go to watch it, is a blank black screen and stuck/frozen timer (one was 0:00 and the other (0:23). It has happened to me twice this weekend, once on a 3 a.m. movie (non MPEG-4) and another time on the early NFL game on Fox (MPEG-4 local). I tried all the FF, REW, Skip "trick" buttons, but nothing. I end up deleting the program/game. In the case of the game, I had the channel on anyway, but seems to me I can't trust this piece of crap box to record and allow me to access a show if I'm either in bed or not home. Anyone have an idea, apart from another software download/fix? This didn't happen to me before the latest firmware upgrade. And this specific problem is listed on Earl's list of fixes with the new software. Ironic, huh?
     
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