Some good news I hope for all the OTA fans from DirecTV

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  1. HoTat2

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    Yeah, its actually another 16:9 SD anamorphic ("squish-a-vision").

    Which means of course that any native 4:3 material they broadcast as in your photo, will first be pillar-boxed into 16:9, which when both the image and the pillar bars are anamorphically squeezed into 4:3 that will cause the original 4:3 image between the pillar bars to be dropped to a 1:1 ratio like that.

    But your complaint is well taken as I've never really understood the purpose of broadcasting 16:9 anamorphic video.

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  2. reubenray

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    I am curious as to how the picture quality is using the ota dongle vs the locals coming through the receiver the regular way.
     
  3. P Smith

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    it's well know fact - better,
    especially if your local stations keep one mux mostly for one HD program and do not over compress in favor to provide many subchannels
     
  4. am3211

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    I am curious as to how the picture quality is using the ota dongle vs the locals coming through the receiver the regular way.


    I have an HR44 and three HR24's each with a corresponding AM21. My OTA picture quality is as good if not better than the Directv hosted local channels
     
  5. HoTat2

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    I don't think the improvement of the new LCC will be so much in PQ over the AM21. But in reception performance for better sensitivity and resistance to multipath effects due to a more modern ATSC chip in it verses the one in the AM21 which is now over 10 years old.

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  6. studechip

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    I've found the AM21 to be much less sensitive than my tv tuners. Years back I had an LG 3200a Directv box. The ota tuner was much better than any of the other off branded ones.
     
  7. coconut13

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    People don't understand that ANY, AM21 or LCC is only as good as the RECEIVING CAPABILITIES of your ANTENNA. If you have an antenna that receives a station the AM21-LCC works, if you don't it won't. This is why D* has refused to deal with OTA. To many customers want to blame the AM21, when it actually has to do with their own antenna issues. Now the limited database of channels also comes into play, and D* seems willing to address this issue before they issue the LCC to the public. But it boils down to people not understanding the capabilities of a AM21-LCC and understanding how the database of channels works with the AM21-LCC. This creates a lot of confusion for D* CSR's.
     
  8. dod1450

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    I agree. I have an outdoor antenna that is 20 feet above my roof with a rotor. With this my TV's are able to pick up 100 local channels plus. I am using an AM-21 that has been passing great picture OTA quality. I also would like to see Directv replace all the channels in their guide from "regular schedule" to the actual channel information.
     
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  9. slice1900

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    That is not true. The only answer to his question is "it depends". In most cases there will be little or no difference. In some cases one will be significantly better - the OTA is more likely to be better on an OTA station that has few subchannels (especially zero) However, there are cases where Directv is getting a direct feed that originates BEFORE the station's mux, and if that station has a lot of subchannels (or one of those subchannels is HD) then what Directv broadcasts via satellite will be better.

    It is easy to find out without an LCC though. Just plug an antenna into your TV's tuner and compare the channel OTA to the channel Directv delivers.
     
  10. reubenray

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    I have an OTA setup that is connected to my TV to use when it is storming. The signal from Directv is good, but not as good as the direct signal from the antenna. I do not know what would happen to the signal from the antenna once it goes into the Directv receiver.
     
  11. P Smith

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    with LCC and your OTA antenna it should be same as your TV
     
  12. 242424

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    +1 And if it happens to be a SD broadcast, it isn't even close.
     
  13. P Smith

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    I would add 100500 if I would be in your shoes :D
     
  14. slice1900

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    You'll get the same picture from an OTA signal going into any device.
     
  15. millertime

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    Anyone know with all the OTA updates happening are they also updating the channel logos? I get Grand Rapids locals and South Bend locals with my AM21 and the CBS logos still shows Video Rola
     
  16. KyL416

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    Sadly they have yet to update the logo_id for the OTA CBS stations after someone screwed up several years ago and gave VideoRola logo_id 19, but instead of reverting it, they gave CBS a new logo_id and never updated the logo_id for the OTA CBS stations.

    Once the LCC officially launches, it should hopefully be easier to report the issue to a CSR.
     
  17. millertime

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  18. millertime

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    You would think with all the attention OTA is getting right now that channel logo updates would be on the to do list. I was thinking since South Bend has been updated the logo would have been fixed. Also I haven’t noticed any additional channels added to S. Bend since the update. Any ideas?
     
  19. RAD

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    Hopefully adding LCC support on the HS17 has a higher priority than fixing channel logo's.
     
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  20. AngryManMLS

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    Maybe they can throw in support for the existing AM-21? I still have one that until I upgraded to the HS17 worked just fine. If they don't then no worries I'll eventually get the new dongle and call it a day.
     

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