Some information ..

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  1. Jun 9, 2009 #1 of 218
    Doug Brott

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    OK .. You guys have had some good discussion time now (Tom included :D) ..

    What will you be getting?

    Basically, there will be some sort of dongle. These dongles look somewhat like a BBC, but perhaps slightly larger. There will be a coax-in connector and a tail with a coax out (into your receiver). Also, there will be an RJ-45 port and a 12" Ethernet cable for attaching the dongle to the Ethernet port on your receiver.

    You will get a total of 4 dongles. One for each of 2 HR2x systems and another for an H2x system. There will be one dongle left to connect to your Local Area network or broadband provider.

    Beyond that? The devices will not ship out until sometime after the 15th of June. That is still a few days away. These puppies will be hot off of the press. I'm not even sure that DIRECTV will have these long before we get to see them.

    It's about time to start getting geared up. Thanks for all of the input to this point.
     
  2. Jun 9, 2009 #2 of 218
    Spanky_Partain

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    Awesome! A dongle...
     
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    66stang351

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    So...when is the field test for the H/HR24 with the 'dongle' built in? :D
     
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    webby_s

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    Sounds really 'niffty'! Ready and raring to test D* and Doug! Thinking of moving my H21 further away from my set up and testing it on some other RG* cable so I can get a real world test.
     
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    veryoldschool

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    For the want of just one more dongle...:lol:
     
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    DJPellegrino

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    So, that means that the broadband needs to be connected to the DTV system...so my question: Does the marrying of the connections happen at the SWM module or at the splitter? With the info so far from Doug, it appears the the REV level of the SWM is of no concern at this point. I currently have 2 splitters in my setup. A 2-way for one side of the house coming off of SWM-2 output. 1 of those outputs has the H23 hooked to it. The other is a 4-way splitter coming off of SWM-1 output for the other side of the house. This side currently has the 2 DVR's hooked to it and the other 2 outputs go to the MBR and the game room, neither of which has anything hooked to them. For this field trial, I will have to use the output of one of the unused rooms for the broadband connection. These splitters are 2-way splitters correct? Otherwise we would need a 2-input splitter. Am I way off base with this? Ultimately, I will have to add a 2-way splitter to my 4-way splitter to be able to use all locations in my house. Thoughts?
     
  7. Jun 9, 2009 #7 of 218
    RAD

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    Dripping...
    Do we know if that dongle needs to be connected near a receiver or just anyway in the coax's path (like at the SWM's PI?).
     
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    veryoldschool

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    [without knowing] I would guess keeping the PI voltage away for the dongle would be a good idea.
     
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    veryoldschool

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    I've got one unused port off my 4-way that I'll be using for the broadband connection.
    If I had all of the outputs being used off the 4-way, I'd add another 2-way splitter off one of them and feed the broadband and a receiver.
     
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    Sixto

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    Let's dongle away!
     
  11. Jun 9, 2009 #11 of 218
    DJPellegrino

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    I'll be making a trip to Home Depot for the addtl 2-way. My understanding is they carry the ones with sufficient frequency for the SWM.
    Thanks...
     
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    veryoldschool

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    If you're going to have a dongle without a receiver, I'd also get a 75 ohm termination [or two] also.
     
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    hdtvfan0001

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    I've only got a wireless connection point (4 port Ethernet Connector) nearby the SWM at this time.

    My actual (Dlink DIR-655) wireless router is on a different floor...so it appears I either need to get Cat 5 or Cat 6 running from the router (directly to one of the 4 ports available), or else use one of the ports on the wireless connector already in place.

    Not sure that the wireless device connection to the SWM will gain anything in terms of performance. It would seem that a direct to router connection is the only one that will get the SWM to port out sufficient signal levels.
     
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    DJPellegrino

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    Yae, I already have a bunch of those laying around.
     
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    veryoldschool

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    :confused: Since the broadband is going to be the lowest/slowest connection, I'm not sure how this is going to affect the SWM dongles part of the network.
     
  16. Jun 9, 2009 #16 of 218
    dave29

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    Cool, can't wait. Pretty much what I envisioned too!
     
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    litzdog911

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    So how does this information correlate with Tom's "First Drawings"?

    I wonder if I can still diplex my off-air antenna?
     
  18. Jun 9, 2009 #18 of 218
    veryoldschool

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    Looks like an exact match.
    "Now" as I posted somewhere, diplexers and where they go [before or after the dongle] will affect the MoCA signal losses and since it looks like 850 MHz is the frequency, this is going to go to the OTA port more than the SAT port.
     
  19. Jun 9, 2009 #19 of 218
    hdtvfan0001

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    That was kinda my point.

    It sounds like you have to have a router-direct connection in place near the SWM to make all the devices connected work at a good Internet connection speed level.

    This is the part of Doug's post that is confusing....

    "There will be one dongle left to connect to your Local Area network or broadband provider."

    My question would be....connect to the LAN/broadband where?
     
  20. Jun 9, 2009 #20 of 218
    dave29

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    Do you have a spare RG6 between your router and SWM?
     

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