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Sources: NFL, DirecTV Negotiating Renewal, With Talks Still In Early Stages

Discussion in 'DIRECTV Programming' started by Athlon646464, Jul 31, 2013.

  1. Aug 5, 2013 #81 of 100
    serevis

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    I have always hoped for a one city total sports subscription which gives you access to one city across all sports. I would be more the willing to pay a good price that encompasses all Boston teams and not have to pay for the full package for each sport since that is all i watch.
     
  2. Aug 6, 2013 #82 of 100
    JoeTheDragon

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    What about something like the rogers super sports pack?
     
  3. Aug 7, 2013 #83 of 100
    streatordogs09

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    Its been confirmed PS3 will not allow you to watch ST through the Madden 25 Amazon deal.
     
  4. Aug 10, 2013 #84 of 100
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    I'm wondering how much leverage that gives DTV in the negotiation process...that was a very good question. Who else has the infrastructure necessary to carry the NFL ST as DTV does now? The NFL has watered the product down a little bit by giving alternate viewing avenues but would they be willing to hand the reigns over to Dish at this point seeing as how they don't have the current capacity. Is there a recognition that the NFL could hurt their brand by going with an untested partner?
     
  5. Aug 11, 2013 #85 of 100
    Bambler

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    I really don't think capacity would be a limiting or sticking point for other providers. Granted I have no idea, but even on cable or fios, I'm sure they could make room considering that capacity is only needed for about six to eight hours one day a week for only a few months out of the year.

    Maybe they go black on something else? Who knows, but I doubt Comcast or AT&T would walk away from the opportunity based on capacity constraints if given the chance to bid on "Sunday Ticket," or whatever it's going to be called in the future.

    These companies must know how powerful that lure is. I mean how many times have you been cold-called from a cable company offering their services and they go through their pitch only to not have an answer for Sunday Ticket? I know personally this has happened to me in the past and while they had an answer for everything, they couldn't counter the lack of Sunday Ticket. This was a long time ago of course, but they probably heard that a lot from people like myself.

    We'll just have to wait and see.
     
  6. Aug 11, 2013 #86 of 100
    tonyd79

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    I really don't think capacity would be a limiting or sticking point for other providers. Granted I have no idea, but even on cable or fios, I'm sure they could make room considering that capacity is only needed for about six to eight hours one day a week for only a few months out of the year.

    Maybe they go black on something else? Who knows, but I doubt Comcast or AT&T would walk away from the opportunity based on capacity constraints if given the chance to bid on "Sunday Ticket," or whatever it's going to be called in the future.

    These companies must know how powerful that lure is. I mean how many times have you been cold-called from a cable company offering their services and they go through their pitch only to not have an answer for Sunday Ticket? I know personally this has happened to me in the past and while they had an answer for everything, they couldn't counter the lack of Sunday Ticket. This was a long time ago of course, but they probably heard that a lot from people like myself.

    We'll just have to wait and see.


    I dunno. Comcast has been cutting back on premiums and shifting people to On Demand because of bandwidth issues. Fios has been stuck with their HD lineup for over two years with no real (non zero sum) additions and are finally, very slowly moving to MPEG 4. Cable systems do not have the PPV channels directv has (who got hammered by customers when they had to take down HD channels in the early HD days; no one is doing that again).

    Besides, any cable based deal would be through a consortium like the others are. No single cable company could stand up to the directv competition and no way would the NFL go exclusive with them, so they would pale in comparison.
     
  7. Aug 11, 2013 #87 of 100
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    well I can see the cable systems with SDV and or MPEG 4 fitting it in. Also maybe other systems can get away with turning off most of the VOD HD slots. But for consortium IN demand maybe hard pressed to add say 14-15 SD slots as well as 14-15 HD slots. Right now they only have 9+9+1 HD slots and they need them for PPV events and NHL, MLB, MLS, and NBA.

    Now maybe if they had 20-25? slots like rogers then it can work.
     
  8. Aug 11, 2013 #88 of 100
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    The NFL has some side deal with microsoft/Xbox1 to show fanatsy updates and probably some games in the very near future, which also waters down Sunday Ticket.

    So with NFL themselves have been hurting D* with..

    1.Their own Redzone channel
    2.Verizon redzone
    3.Thursday Night Football
    4.PS3 streaming
    5.Now the Xbox deal.

    These 5 items have hurt the value of ST.

    So the NFL needs to throw D* a bone during negotiations.
     
  9. Aug 11, 2013 #89 of 100
    joshjr

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    There is no more PS3 streaming and the XBOX deals sounds like its down the road and if its just highlights, big deal.
     
  10. Aug 11, 2013 #90 of 100
    JohnBoy

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    Dont be so sure.I'am hearing that there will be PS3 streaming this season and it will come out around a week before kickoff.

    If I'am right,you have to come and wash my car every saturday during football season.

    If i'am wrong then I will continue to be your DBS little buddy... :grin:
     
  11. Aug 11, 2013 #91 of 100
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    well I can see the cable systems with SDV and or MPEG 4 fitting it in. Also maybe other systems can get away with turning off most of the VOD HD slots. But for consortium IN demand maybe hard pressed to add say 14-15 SD slots as well as 14-15 HD slots. Right now they only have 9+9+1 HD slots and they need them for PPV events and NHL, MLB, MLS, and NBA.

    Now maybe if they had 20-25? slots like rogers then it can work.


    Cable systems don't have linear on demand channels. The on demand channels in their guides are entry points to their in demand system. So they can't get them there. (Yes, there are some but the big players don't have them.)

    Mpeg4 is still a dream for some big ones, too. Comcast is a mishmash of systems with many having little space now and using older tech. The X1 program is supposed to address that to some degree but I understand it is going slower than hoped. As for SDV, not enough to make it worth while outside of att. The NFL is not going to want to deal with every Podunk outfit.
     
  12. Aug 11, 2013 #92 of 100
    joshjr

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    Link backing this up?
     
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    JoeTheDragon

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    Guide pointers are not the same as the max number of VOD that can be live on each node.
     
  14. Aug 11, 2013 #94 of 100
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    Where is your link backing your claim? And the Amazon Madden 25 comment does not count.

    When the PSN blog post's the arrival of the 2013 PS3 ST streaming in the coming weeks or possibly days,I will be sure to show you the link and posting, as well as a NanaNa BooBoo. :smoking:
     
  15. Aug 12, 2013 #95 of 100
    joshjr

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    NFL Sunday Ticket NFL Sunday Ticket is an out-of-market sports package that broadcasts National to 199.99 mid-season The PSN offer was discontinued in 2013.…

    http://www.sir-games.com/ps3-sunday-ticket-2013/
     
  16. Aug 12, 2013 #96 of 100
    Bambler

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    I have a question that may have already been answered, but I couldn't find it:

    Was the PSN deal actually offered by/through DirecTV?

    It had to have been if DirecTV carried exclusive distribution rights?
     
  17. Aug 12, 2013 #97 of 100
    joshjr

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    I am pretty sure it was. I just called DirecTV and was told that Sunday Ticket is not offered through Playstation this year.
     
  18. Aug 12, 2013 #98 of 100
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    As much as I would like DirecTV I would love to see other options emerge like through Xbox One.
     
  19. Aug 12, 2013 #99 of 100
    Bambler

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    I thought so. I wonder why they pulled it?
     
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    Looks like The NFL ST "WILL NOT BE" on the PS3 this year....This is a response I got from a cs specialist just now.

    Response Via Email(Michael W (ID U5694)) - 08/13/2013 05:34 AM
    Dear Mr Palermo,

    Thanks for writing. I'm happy to assist you today.

    The NFL SUNDAY TICKET will not be available on Sony PlayStation 3 this year.
    Your feedback is of great value to us and the services we offer and I have
    forwarded your comments to management for review. Rest assured your voice is
    being heard. DIRECTV does a very good job of putting customer feedback to use
    and many of the changes we make are a direct result of the comments and
    suggestions we receive from customers like you.

    Your time is much appreciated, Mr. Palermo. Thank you again for writing.

    EDIT: Sony just announced it "No PS3 ST APP"

    http://www.ign.com/articles/2013/08/14/no-nfl-sunday-ticket-for-ps3-this-year
     

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